The Cognitive Tradeoff Hypothesis

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  • roswellautopsia
    roswellautopsia Vor 5 Stunden +1

    This is so much of a half-assed History channel kind of show, all with questionable hypothesis and blurry conclusions it's a shame someone so science, and logic driven like Michael is doing it.
    Michael always gave us proved knowledge based on facts and with reliable sources.

  • Allan Dsouza
    Allan Dsouza Vor 15 Stunden +1

    Asians may be smart but we're smarter than their animals
    Asian Chimpanzee: hold my beer

  • Dozie G
    Dozie G Vor 15 Stunden

    Dear Vsauce,
    Can you please make a video about the psychology of people wanting biological kids VS adoption? I can't have kids and the prospect of adoption has ruined two relationships even though I'm only in my early 20's. Men seem to be fixated on the idea of wanting to pass on their DNA to a far greater degree than women and I'd like to understand it more.
    Thanks Xx

  • Hi
    Hi Vor 17 Stunden

    That one time you don’t have premium but can still watch mind field episodes.

  • Josh L
    Josh L Vor 17 Stunden

    Monks use to take vows of silence to improve focus. We should have a national sign language everyone shut up day. Would be the only holiday no one vocalizes and I would celebrate it. They would also do this with blind folds as well. By limiting one sense it increases the others. We rely to much on what we hear and are always imagining our future. Monkeys just instinctively respond to the now with no concept of the future. Monkeys are the monks of the trees, for the old idol of monkeys that see now evil, hear no evil, do no evil would teach us much if people realize we are blinded by an abundance of information for the smartest and wisest man says nothing. Also I believe we didnt come from monkeys because our DNA is 98% in common, we are also 97.5% a blood worm. That 2% alien DNA is what makes us special and different than any monkey for our eyes and brains are far more advanced. If we did come from monkeys we had to become aquatic at some point in order to lose our hair. Also would account for making us weaker since in water things are lighter. All mammals with little hair spend much time in the water. Monkeys fear water because they sink due to no body fat. So I try to keep a open mind as to how we could have adapted into what we call humanity now. I think the ancient alien idea is just as believable that some alien race landed here and uploaded there DNA into the closest Biped they could find that could handle the upgrade without losing its Alpha status in the animal kingdom, thus ensuring the DNA will survive and explains why monkeys haven't progressed to neanderthals again by random mutation. Other idea is cosmic radiation mutation, but it wouldn't change the bone structure of the eye socket nor would our feet be straight. We would have thumbs on our feet and be way stronger had we evolved in just the trees. Lucy the monkey they traced our DNA back to was only 98% in common with us. So this proves monkeys haven't changed DNA but they have adapted with time yet the base code remains the same if you study RNA and DNA. This is my own theory so take it with a grain of salt but ask the Hippo or Elephant why they arn't hairy. Our brains are more in common with dolphins truth be known. my 2cents. Love peace and prosperity and enjoyed the show!
    Grateful fan - Josh

  • ERIC CURE
    ERIC CURE Vor 18 Stunden

    Kïłł mę, płeåšë. Møm fôüñd łhė põōp śōçk. T-T

  • shelomoh
    shelomoh Vor 21 Stunde

    POWERFUL MESSAGE!

  • SimplyEyolf
    SimplyEyolf Vor 22 Stunden

    Click the numbers! To beat... numbers!

  • Saatvik Agrawal
    Saatvik Agrawal Vor Tag +2

    Hold on a second. I think this research can really be elaborated. We humans use strategies like mnemonics, flowcharts, and other methods to memorize unrelated information. What devices or techniques do chimpanzees use? You see, if we tap into that (assuming such a thing exists) we could harness their mental power.

    But there's one more thing. We humans developed these techniques due to our less capacity of memory, whereas chimps may not have to had done such a thing. Mabye their natural capacity itself was sufficient.

    • Aiden O'Connell
      Aiden O'Connell Vor 12 Stunden

      Weather then memerorizing the numbers left to wright micheal looked for them in order of 1 2 3 4 and so on

  • Sebastian Rodriguez Colina

    How do they get the order right?

  • freeideas
    freeideas Vor Tag +2

    Chimps can, over time, can learn how to remember and identify the placement of digits 0-9 in a split second. Humans can, over time, learn how to remember and identify the placement music notes, pressing up to 10 keys on a piano, also in a split second. These seem -- to me at least -- to be similar skills, except I would say that playing the piano is FAR more difficult. Is this really a case of a mental feat that chimps can do that humans can't?

    • Upgrayedd
      Upgrayedd Vor 8 Stunden +1

      Well, recognizing music is a language skill. And children under the age of 6 have much higher rates of photographic memory. That's the tradeoff hypothesis: that humans and chimps have a similar brain region for photographic memory, except humans mostly use it only for language skills.

    • Aiden O'Connell
      Aiden O'Connell Vor 12 Stunden

      freeideas the problem with humans is I always saw the eyes of micheal darting across the screen to look for numbers in numerical order weather then left to wright and no human can memorize 10 notes in less then 7/10 of a second

  • nobedman848
    nobedman848 Vor Tag

    Subscribe ti Pewdiepie

  • mad Rascal
    mad Rascal Vor Tag

    These chimps are paid actors

  • jimmi hotdog
    jimmi hotdog Vor Tag

    Far out more please yea.

  • Froh Natur
    Froh Natur Vor Tag

    Is it certain, that this test is about memory? When you showed Ayumu's test at the beginning, I only even registered 3 numbers. It's hard to recognize 9 symbols in a split second.
    Also it would seem to make more sense to me, if chimpanzees preserved the skill to quickly recognize patterns (as in the example with counting predators, and making a quick fight-or-flight decision, which seems to be more about pattern recognition); more so than it does with memory.

  • statisdt
    statisdt Vor Tag

    Kicked out from forest like Adam kicked out from garden .Since his memory was bad just forgot forbiden tree.. lol

  • Kaspar
    Kaspar Vor Tag

    How do they know how to count though?

  • Aaron Schwartz
    Aaron Schwartz Vor Tag

    vsauce you should know better than to show us linear evolution, show a phylogenetic tree

  • Hans Anitiser
    Hans Anitiser Vor Tag

    22:05 the best part

  • Jessie Sgouros
    Jessie Sgouros Vor Tag

    I want to see Tetsuro Matsuzawa do it

  • Marcos Paullo Rocha

    conheci o canal só agora kk🤦‍♂️🙀 muito top

  • Hans Neumann
    Hans Neumann Vor Tag +1

    It's so interesting!👍😆
    P.S.
    I love Japan!)

  • Rob Overholt
    Rob Overholt Vor Tag

    Where could i download this software so we can try? I think its like typing, with practice, we can cruise too.. Not sold on this video.. Also, Michael knows the camera is watching, DEclips the company will be watching, the editor will see it and the rest of the world will too, so many things getting him out of "the zone".. anyways.. whatev'....

  • quantum bracket
    quantum bracket Vor Tag +1

    the monolith gave us language

  • Jk Gaming
    Jk Gaming Vor Tag

    Hey Michael vsauce here

  • Danvitinho
    Danvitinho Vor Tag

    I would unronically watch every episode of this

    if was free

  • Mp57navy
    Mp57navy Vor Tag

    4:55 "look at monkeys" 5:01 "cameraman shows great ape"
    Remember kids: Monkey have tails, apes do not.

  • Stasko
    Stasko Vor 2 Tage

    0:32 my team in league of legends

  • enchanted wolf
    enchanted wolf Vor 2 Tage +1

    My mom said I look like a chimp so yea I know what to say when she tell me that

  • Veronika C
    Veronika C Vor 2 Tage

    What about some marine mammals languages and cognitive abilities? Somehow I failing to see the differences between “humans” and “animals” more pronounced than differences between two animal kinds.

  • Team Rocket
    Team Rocket Vor 2 Tage

    try memorising it as a picture not as 9 numbers in 9 different spots while figuring out the numerical order .

  • PlasmaFuzer
    PlasmaFuzer Vor 2 Tage

    I think Dr. Matsuzawa's research is quite interesting, and his experimental setup is quite good. I am thoroughly impressed he developed a method of training chips to be able to develop cognitively and to demonstrate that development in a consistent, repeatable way. However what was shown here _at best_ demonstrates consistency with the hypothesis, and nothing more. Michael's failure to reproduce Ayumi's speed at the game demonstrates nothing.

    Chips are recognized as having impressive cognitive ability (at least within the animal kingdom). Dr. Matsuzawa's research demonstrates that chimp's can be effectively trained to perform tasks (to my knowledge this was already known and demonstrated, and not just for chimps!). Ayumi has been playing this game presumably since it was able to climb into the box along with its mother. This could be many months, to many years (exact age was not specified) of exposure to this training paradigm. During this time Ayumi started off slowly and with a low number of digits and then progressed to the blistering fast pace with a high number of digits. Given a chimp's aforementioned ability to respond to training, this should have been expected.

    What should also have been expected, is Michael's _inability_ to reproduce this precise end state ability (the speed and accuracy) his first time playing this game. It is not surprising that he was unable to match the speed or accuracy of the highest performing chimp, as he has undergone *no* training whatsoever. Additionally, there are signs he was progressing himself fairly quickly. His times generally were trending down, and his accuracy was trending up (he completed the last puzzle of the set, also in the fastest time). Again, not shocking as his repeated exposure to the tests were serving as training for the subsequent test.

    I don't dismiss this research or its corresponding hypothesis in its entirety because I understand that it is possible in the associated publications they did comparative trials of one form or another (rates of learning, top end performance, etc.) showing chimps with equivalent training times as their human counterparts were consistently outperforming these humans. However I am being generous here because the claim/hypothesis, though intriguing and with evidence demonstrating consistency, is in my opinion not actually being tested with what was shown here; and hence I am speculating as to what _else_ has been done that was not shown. Again, at best, this research presentation demonstrated that chimps can be trained (already known) and with that training they can out perform humans with no training (impressive but not all that unexpected). However without evidence showing humans can not perform at or above this level, with a corresponding amount of training time, I assert the hypothesis remains thoroughly untested.

  • Pentti Hilkuri
    Pentti Hilkuri Vor 2 Tage

    What type of watch is that on Michael's wrist?

  • Madam Atom
    Madam Atom Vor 2 Tage

    4:55
    "Look at monkeys"
    _ Dr. Desktop Matsuzawa 2019

  • Tehvoodoo19
    Tehvoodoo19 Vor 2 Tage

    I wonder if this is why people on the autistic spectrum can sometimes excel at this sort of task, because of the lack of development of, or impaired, language ability.

  • Ham Bone
    Ham Bone Vor 2 Tage

    my man look like hes off to gaykumes circumcision

  • Alex Shyshonkov
    Alex Shyshonkov Vor 2 Tage

    I got here from ApeSex Legends

  • Kioku
    Kioku Vor 2 Tage

    23:29 I more so *know* what I'm supposed to see in dreams. I can't see the cheetah, but I convince myself I do.

  • Kioku
    Kioku Vor 2 Tage

    5:50 Not to be confused with that one spacecraft.

  • this guy
    this guy Vor 2 Tage

    humans can easily do that with a small practice..we can have multiple languages and photographic memories..

  • David Weihe
    David Weihe Vor 2 Tage

    Was this test run for people who learned their letters at age 9-10 (about as late as possible)? It is well known that learning to read and write lessens your ability to memorize things (unless you are weird, like Art Benjamin or Marilu Henner), and early reading reduces it even more than normal (age 6) or late initial reading age.

  • TheGameLecturer
    TheGameLecturer Vor 2 Tage

    Mind blown.

  • Justin Haynes
    Justin Haynes Vor 2 Tage

    @Vsauce, How do the chimpanzees learn the sequence of the numbers?

  • LittleSpoon
    LittleSpoon Vor 2 Tage

    my mind has been blown!!!!!

  • JC
    JC Vor 2 Tage

    Ok. That's it. Time to subscribe.

  • vegard pig
    vegard pig Vor 2 Tage

    *look* *at* *spider* *monkey*

  • Zekemeout
    Zekemeout Vor 2 Tage

    Wtf michael?

  • Yuvraj Mallick
    Yuvraj Mallick Vor 2 Tage

    19:21 *_Ayumu_* (after seeing this) : _Aa aa uu uu_ ( *Translation* : Yeah Michael that could help beginners)

  • Flying Squirrel FPV
    Flying Squirrel FPV Vor 2 Tage

    Has this experiment been performed with autistic savants? If they can perform at the level of the chimps then perhaps a brain scan could be used to compare the physical differences with an average brain.

  • Tendai Ball
    Tendai Ball Vor 2 Tage

    Poetic that we got kicked out of the trees and now we run the world

  • Lane Krischke
    Lane Krischke Vor 3 Tage

    The only part of this that amazes me is how the chimps can recognize and understand our numeric system. They recognize the symbols and their order. Pretty amazing, I wonder if they could be taught a basic pictogram language.

  • SHAHEER AJMAL
    SHAHEER AJMAL Vor 3 Tage

    we defended our existence.. so we developed focused observation
    they ruled over an area so the defense was not that much... they needed to focus on multiple subjects to achieve their goals such as the threats in the bush.. they were strong , aggressive so they would fight everyone evading their territory.
    we were weak , so we had to plan to survive

  • John Talmage
    John Talmage Vor 3 Tage

    I see based on many comments that it's easier to critique than to create

  • SHAHEER AJMAL
    SHAHEER AJMAL Vor 3 Tage

    if there were figures and you have to draw them.. you might be able to draw 1 or 2 with much more details
    where as a champ would draw all the figures at the exact same location they were before disappearing, they won't be able to draw any details

  • SHAHEER AJMAL
    SHAHEER AJMAL Vor 3 Tage

    we notice more about one but can't focus on others
    they focus on all... can't notice even a single one as better as we do

  • SHAHEER AJMAL
    SHAHEER AJMAL Vor 3 Tage

    michael..... we focus on one subject
    they do it on multiple ones..
    how's that expl

  • arun sheokand
    arun sheokand Vor 3 Tage

    Great video, great message

  • debu1997
    debu1997 Vor 3 Tage

    Awesome!

  • Fatboy Vladimir
    Fatboy Vladimir Vor 3 Tage

    Subtitle the Japanese guy speaking perfectly discernible English.

  • Chen Yumin
    Chen Yumin Vor 3 Tage

    No!! God made humans!! We are not monkeys!!! You are wrong!! Evolution is a myth!!

  • Gamebuster19901
    Gamebuster19901 Vor 3 Tage

    Meh, speed cubers do more complex tasks than this with only a few more seconds.

  • Parsa F. Kondori
    Parsa F. Kondori Vor 3 Tage

    I miss the old Michael

  • Dill Funk
    Dill Funk Vor 3 Tage +1

    I don't believe evolution, such a big lie

  • Grim Lock
    Grim Lock Vor 3 Tage

    Rise of the planets of the apes

  • EinfacherVincent
    EinfacherVincent Vor 3 Tage

    I wanted to say, an amazing thing to do, go into the dictonary look a a word. Search about it and find out about it. Put it into a folder on the computer
    Expand your knowledge. Reverse learning.

  • Awkward Italian Girl

    I’m too high for this.

  • EveryCrazyDay
    EveryCrazyDay Vor 4 Tage +1

    Honestly what a pioneer in animal research, get tons of research in realistic conditions. Also looks like this guy really cares and understands these cousins of the humans

  • kliop00023
    kliop00023 Vor 4 Tage

    holy Rock, Paper, Scissors - DEclips
    !!!
    declips.net/video/n-n72ovgp2i/video.html&list=plzrrxqcaeja6mh0amuierdpbwx5rvmdkf&index=2
    Kyoto University Ph.D. candidate Jie Gao shares her research involving Chimpanzees and the schoolyard game “Rock, Paper, Scissors.”
    Partner rating
    I
    Release date
    05/12/2018
    Running time
    3:37
    Language
    English
    Category
    Science & Technology

  • OG Studio
    OG Studio Vor 4 Tage

    10:56 when you buy cheetos

  • Baiklzr
    Baiklzr Vor 4 Tage

    5.7 k chimpanzees in the dislikes smh

  • Alligatorcrocs
    Alligatorcrocs Vor 4 Tage

    Subscribe to call me Carson

  • John Cochran
    John Cochran Vor 4 Tage

    If they believe the difference is sharing vs short term decision making, could this be used to diagnose antisocial personality disorder/psychopathy and better understand what it means to be psychopathic?

  • samantha ohanlon
    samantha ohanlon Vor 4 Tage

    how do they know the numbers

  • Tonberry King
    Tonberry King Vor 4 Tage

    These people really need to study the Stoned Ape Hypothesis

  • IAMDIMITRI
    IAMDIMITRI Vor 4 Tage

    Will a human grown up in the same environment have a malleable enough brain to be able to compete with the chimps?

  • Recnid
    Recnid Vor 4 Tage

    How did they teach the chimps numbers tho? They need to know 2 comes before 3 in order to succeed.

  • Lunar 76
    Lunar 76 Vor 4 Tage

    The amount of humanity that was in this video is stunning, and heartwarming.

  • Lunar 76
    Lunar 76 Vor 4 Tage

    This is awesome

  • D Dover
    D Dover Vor 4 Tage

    They should present other examples of the brain engaging in a cognitive trade off to support the brain does this, where the brain decreases the size of an area to make room for another area. Did our common ancestor 6 million years ago have the same ability to memorize like modern chimps do? or is it something that they developed independent of our linage over millions of years? Since we did not evolve from modern chimps how do you say we lost something they now possess? I just want to see some evidence presented besides it seems logical.

  • Torab Abdullah
    Torab Abdullah Vor 4 Tage

    we all know that the people who talk too much use less brain in thinking. so does this make them better competitor at this memory game? cause opposite to those who talk less and think too much thus, have better practice in converting thoughts into words must suck at this game?
    and how would you prove that this tradeoff actually happened? my biggest question is why don't we see evolution now? where are the in betweeners who started their journey becoming humans and still only half way through?

  • Far Cry 4
    Far Cry 4 Vor 4 Tage

    Кто от Стаса?

  • Mikhail V
    Mikhail V Vor 5 Tage

    Следует заметит что только 1 обезьяна показывает такой результат. Результат каждой обезьяны будет сильно различаться и это скорее всего связано с обучением обезьян к повторяющимся однообразным задачам. Человек также может развить этот навык. Так что тут ничего не следует, нас обманули расходимся.

  • Donald Piniach
    Donald Piniach Vor 5 Tage

    A dash of autism and a bit of Ritalin and Michael would be ordering the Babylonian numerical system faster than any chimp.

  • Георгий
    Георгий Vor 5 Tage

    I think, that if you will be training one person from childhood to do this, he can do even better

  • Jose Miguel
    Jose Miguel Vor 5 Tage

    What if we had a human not talk with no one , would he develop some kind of language or thinking , or would he be just like chimps ?

  • Eternal Reign
    Eternal Reign Vor 5 Tage

    Whoa whoa whoa, hold the phone, never mind that the chimps could memorize it so quickly, who taught them what was the right order, or how to count to begin with? I feel like I missed an episode here.

  • Radvslavvs van der Staaz

    Michael you should say the numbers out loud to use this "trade-off" but, you can not say a few numbers in half a second.
    If we have exchanged the perfect photographic memory for communication skills.
    This should be marked in the test of man and animal.

  • mlg dash
    mlg dash Vor 5 Tage

    Hey Vsauce Michael here

  • WashYourHands
    WashYourHands Vor 5 Tage

    1:20 Ninja: *StReAm SnIpErS*

  • Maksym Edel
    Maksym Edel Vor 5 Tage

    Sharing is a part of every social life. The monkeys have developed a simple society, where they are busy with surviving, thus they share only vital information whereas we, humans, share everything and we engage our brain with this task. If we, humans (that can program / create 100 PetaFlops supercomputers) would degrade to the monkey's level we would be the most successful, but yet more dangerous species than we are now. We would develop ability to hunt under water (gills), we would be the best hunters and at the end, we would still become what we are now - humans (if to follow the theory of evolution). Because our brain was made not to just survive, but to dominate and rule. We are some kind of an experiment, not evolution's creature, because no single species on the Earth have been able to developed one thing - brain size/neurons density. That's why monkeys are monkeys, humans are humans. We have never been split, we are different. We share everything we see, monkeys share only vital information.

  • roberob13 13
    roberob13 13 Vor 5 Tage

    How come no one ever talks about what we are going to evolve into?

  • DancingCheese
    DancingCheese Vor 5 Tage

    For people giving hate for this video, I think it’s important to address that the point of MindField is not to prove anything. I watched the first two seasons, each episode is an example of interesting anomalies of human psychology, normally including a type of experiment. The point of Mind Field, and most Vsauce videos, I think, is to simply inspire.
    It’s bite-sized science, the introduction of an interesting idea with a bit of research to back up on it, ending with some type of existential or uplifting thought. It’s supposed to inspire people to be interested in human psychology, to look into it and research it, not to prove that something like the cognitive tradeoff hypothesis is true. This video isn’t something Michael expects to be referenced in a scientific paper, it’s something Michael expects the viewers to recall when reading a scientific paper.

  • Sophia Shakti
    Sophia Shakti Vor 5 Tage

    You should devote a whole series to Russian scientist S. V. Saveliev. His ideas incorporate the ones you mentioned and develop them much further through comparative cytoarchetectonic studies of the brain.

  • chronischtelaat
    chronischtelaat Vor 5 Tage

    But of course Ayumu has been trained since he was a child. Micheal's brain had already matured and has never done the task before. I wonder if a child, trained from the same age and trained the same amount would be on the same level as the chimp. A young brain still has a lot of plasticity.

  • Lemonstate
    Lemonstate Vor 5 Tage +1

    I love Professor Tetsura Matsuzawa, so smart, humane and that cheeky humour is wondrous!

  • Helevatic
    Helevatic Vor 6 Tage

    that intro ooooooooo snap this will be good

  • freeideas
    freeideas Vor 6 Tage +4

    Wait! Something they didn't talk about: The chimps have practiced this before, maybe for YEARS! Wouldn't a human, practicing this maybe every day for a year, become extraordinarily good at these tests? I think so. Am I missing something?

    • Upgrayedd
      Upgrayedd Vor 8 Stunden

      You cannot practice to have a photographic memory. This study is more related to children under the age of 6 having higher rates of photographic memory before they develop abstract thinking. DEclips just made it out to be a monkey social justice issue.

    • freeideas
      freeideas Vor Tag

      If you or I were to practice these tests for a few minutes almost every day, as it appears these chimps do, I believe within a few months, we would be *at least* as good at them as these chimps are. Maybe the point of the video still stands, because maybe chimps do better on these tests *first try* than humans do. But the video doesn't say that. It only shows very-highly-practiced chimps competing with a human on his first attempt.

    • Metal Material
      Metal Material Vor Tag

      Well even then we wouldn’t be able to process how many figures there even are in the time it takes for them to process each number in order. We can’t not process the numbers as language and numbers. Just like how if someone is talking you can’t choose to not understand them, you process the language anyway.

    • thenameisblu
      thenameisblu Vor 2 Tage

      Not only that but as humans we are processing not only the numbers but the idea of the numbers. We don't know how much the visual data in a chimps mind is being processed or even how.

  • Ina Grund ♥️
    Ina Grund ♥️ Vor 6 Tage

    i never knew that monkeys know the decimal system.

  • technical kd
    technical kd Vor 6 Tage

    nice
    grow your channel:- #technicalkd