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Imagine playing at the level of 2939, having a record score in the preliminaries, and coming out first, despite giving away free 3 points. This guy is crazy
I think Niemann has someone on another area controlling his mouse when Niemann plays. maybe niemann has a device for it, but it maybe isn't nedded one to cheat in his case..
@Alexey Sergeev crazy genius
Magnus is the GOAT
Chances are, he believes Hans cheated based on the way he was playing, but there is no way to prove it with evidence. He has no way to prove anything, so there's no point in sending direct accusations right now.
Isn't he cheated in the past hmmI hope cheaters in the future will be ban in chess for live😎
There appears to be an enormous amount of people unaware of the lawsuits that will immediately follow if someone publicly accuses a professional chess player of cheating. This is why Magnus (and everyone else on Magnus' side) is saying little to nothing when asked about Hans Niemann.
@bigpoppa1234 If you cheat, you are a cheater. This is the consequence of being a cheater, whether you are caught or not. Or whether you are a kid (mentored poorly) or not. It is unfair for anybody to have to play a game which requires fairness, against an "opponent" who is known to cheat.
@cathalsurfs In very few sports does a player who cheats get permanently banned forever. Also he was a kid, and it was online. Magnus should grow up and play.
@bigpoppa1234 What would you do if a known cheater was allowed to play you in a professional tournament?
No court on earth would allow a lawsuit for someone who follows the legitimate process of reporting cheating to a sports federation as long as due process and a right of reply was given to the accused for whatever evidence was shown, and the reporter accepted the final decision instead of crying about it in the media and refusing to play. What magnus is doing now is way more damaging than reporting him to FIDE and then abiding by whatever decision they made.
Interviewer asked the questions very smartly and kinda got the answer out even though magnus was unwilling to speak. I'm impressed.
She's a journalist not only a commentator! Well done 👍👍
What was his answer she decoded?
@Manuel Bonelli It's public knowledge that Maxim Dlugy was/is Hans' trainer. He has a chess academy in New York and if you go to their website, it clearly lists Hans Niemann as one of the students.
NAh, Magnus saw this move and accepted the gambit!
She is a great interviewer. She was able to ask questions that brought out answers. Very impressed
@Scott Warren Its hard to imagine
@Gilgamesh 9908 Watch again the part where she asked Magnus if he personally thought FIDE was doing enough to deal with cheating. He slipped up and revealed that the comments he planned on giving after the tournament also had to do with cheating. That's getting some information, if you ask me.
She was horrible.... she just tryed to get answers on a hot topic. Its nothing else than gotcha journalism. She didnt care about him just about Drama.
She's also super hot
The interview itself was a game of chess. Very smartly formulated questions, appreciated by Magnus' smiles
@Llauis Aubets take it easy boy. that was a joke.
Exactly; Kaja Snare is awesome.
@goku so what, that doesnt make her bad, it makes her better to put down the questions nicely and cohesive
she has team behind her. lol
The interviewer really was well prepared..She asked all the questions point blank.. no drama or mincing words.. it was like white and black.. she did more than what everyone wanted to know and ask.. good job!
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haha white and black, get it, like a chessboard......
Yep that's all it takes. He said he will comment after the tournament and that's fine. It's just sad that the interviewer had to push so hard for such a basic statement that he should have said on his own but at least it's done now.Now he just needs to announce in advance if he plans to resign to Hans because it's basically match-fixing to resign from a winning or neutral position without notice.
saying that Maxim Dlugy is Han's mentor is such a passive-aggressive statement by carlsen. Maxim Dlugy is a Russian GM who was kicked from the chess website about 5 years ago for suspected cheating. The implications are clear
Magnus knows how to avoid a trap, be it on the board or in an interview
@UCURhknCAm47CUa7-ViIAlPQ I am sure he had plenty of time to think about whether talk about it later or not
@Malibu Nights He can't make a direct acusation. He is willingly transmiting what he wants to without saying much. Interviewer did a great job too.
@Malibu Nights are you Re-
@Malibu Nights he said what he wanted and did not say what he did not want to
I see a man with principles trying to navigate a tricky path and taking big hits while doing so. I wish him all the best.
@StevieWevie what tantrum?
@Tara Bartholomew if he is so worried about that perhaps he shouldn't have thrown a massive and very public tantrum
@PirateTHESteam1 Well a lot of money is on the line lmao you wouldn't want a lawsuit either, at least you're breaking the stereotype that people in the chess community are smart! Good for you
This is epic. Hahaha. Maxim must have done a great job as a mentor...hahaha. This Maxim Dugly was accused for fraud in Russia in early 2000s, and was later banned from Titled Tuesday for cheating. Interestingly the same man accused another player for hiding a device in his shoes. Magnus knows what he is doing, and doing the sport a great favour.
Magnus is the King of chess, sometimes we need to heed the King’s advice in life and ask no more questions. Maybe this problem cannot ever be fully resolved, but I for one believe in the King and listen to the King as he has led the chess world now for over 10 years.
Thanks for posting this up, what a great interview. Magnus not throwing shade towards Hans just SMASHING the competition on a rampage to a clear victory here. Love how great he is overall.
She asked questions like a chess master; positioning, maneuvering, tactics and then a draw!!!
@Jakob S You are so smart. I hadn't realized until your brilliant comment that she didn't work alone ...
It's almost as if she has an entire studio in her ear feeding her information and questions.
Gotta love how the interviewer asked one first question about cheating, then moved on to other questions as if that was it, and then came back in force with some incisive questions. Made me feel like it was pretty tactical. Either way it’s good to finally from Magnus on this mess, even if only in passing.
There appears to be an enormous amount of people unaware of the lawsuits that will *immediately* follow if someone publicly accuses a professional chess player of cheating. This is why Magnus (and everyone else on Magnus' side) is saying little to nothing when asked about Hans Niemann.
Yeah, he deserves to get sued for defamation. Instead he hints like coward, abusing his status to make 19yo kid get insane amount of hate.
Both did a great job here. Probing but respectful questions and Magnus could give diplomats some lessons.
Magnus is a master of psychological warfare, got the whole chess word in chaos…
@HandOfFreedom? justified? you're talking about justice here? want to argue with stranger online?"magnus is just" might want to think on that
@KUZYRII hell yeah, chess is cool again
@Heikal Kahfi Yea man. The world champion should play against someone that cheats and just pretend he doesn't see it. If he's suspicious of something and wants to keep the competitive integrity of the game what he's doing is completely justified. Dude cares about the game and is clearly still very good at it.
Psychological warfare meaning, losing points to hans. Chaos meaning ruining tournaments for other chess players?
"I have to say I am very impressed by Niemann's play and I think his mentor Maxim Dlugy (who cheated) must have been doing a great job" - haha love the comment.
This interviewer is so subtle and smart with her questions, we can tell she really prepared this interview so much to get the best answers !
Finally an interview with the world champion himself. This is a first start to relieve the tension in the position/discussion.
I'm telling you now. The time will come when people will ask the question "why did we think we knew better than the best Chess player who ever lived". Not today. Not tomorrow.
Imagine being this much of a delusional fanboy
Hans is on the rise soon is start of new era
The interview speaks for itself.
Yes, Kaja Snare rules.
From 1:25 to 1:37 Magnus is refering to Maxim Dlugy who has an history of cheating. Maybe he is Niemann second who was unknown. My guess is that when Carlsen, at the Sinquefield Cup, discovered Niemann past cheating history online, his interview after the game and that Dlugy was his second, He thought that it was Dlugy himself that was helping in some way Niemann to cheat OTB suggesting maybe the right moves to overcome algorithm detection. That's why now he says explicity the name of Maxim Dlugy adding that he did a great job, at least that's my interpretation.
@sss 🤦♂️ so how if not electronics? Why did St Louis Chess Club release a statement after the tournament stating there was no cheating?
Always two there are, no more, no less. A master and an apprentice
It was rumors Dlugy wasn't found to have cheated. This is what I gathered from forums at the time.
@Oh boi ok? So what? I openly acknowledge having my interest sparked in 2020
Magnus Carlsen already said what need to be said. It is good to see that Carlsen is his own boss.
I think the most important thing he indicated was that he might be able to speak after the tournament is over. I really don't think he can say anything more than he said here, at this point.
Magnus speaks for itself
Respect for Magnus for giving this interview.
Such a class by Magnus!! I love how he keeps cool in every comments on Niemannn.
Maxim Dlugy is a GM who is suspected of having cheated in a titled Tuesday event online, and also happens to be one of Hans Niemann's coaches. I find it quite suspicious that Maxim Dlugy was known for having been beating top tier players in blitz at a younger age. He also accused another player of cheating with an electronic device in their shoe. The very fact that he is mindful of some electronic device being a potential route for cheating suggests that he has researched the topic. His past is also sketchy, having been convicted of embezzlement previously.Maxim Dlugy is known for being an "intuitive" player, and Hans has said the same of himself in a Sinquefield cup interview. Perhaps being an "intuitive" player is code for I don't really want to have to explain my chess moves in detail because they just came to him naturally. I was leaning towards Hans being innocent prior to these revelations, but now I'm leaning more towards Hans being introduced to a cheating method that's much more sophisticated then an electronic device in the shoe by this Dlugy character, who presumably was searching for a young chess prodigy who he knew would not be opposed to breaking the rules (Hans has admitted to cheating using the engine on chess.com).Of course, there is no concrete evidence of cheating and therefore it is unwarranted to make direct accusations but there should be high suspicions placed on Hans Niemann and his future chess career.
Dlugy said it would be easy for 2600 to get away with cheating a few times a game. Then proceeds to get band for cheating
Some valid points except the guy with the shoe, in fact, was cheating that way and also, Maxime was acquitted of embezzlement..
I have seen his videos of full 3 hours blitz , well I even had downloaded it via link sent to my email ( not sure if it's on you tube). In that videos he defeated Garry Kasparov calmly and explained as well. Well I had no idea back than who this max guy was but now it's all coming together. He might have used engine lines ( can't confirm this fact)
We also have to take into account that Hans has nothing to lose from this as he would never be able to play at such a level without this assistance.
As I've said elsewhere, Magnus made a slight psychological mistake by answering the questions on cheating the way he did when pressed. He was doing quite okay with the broken-record "I can't say anything now, I'll say more after the tournament/at some later time" routine up to that point. Anyway, we'll see.
I'm happy to see chess becoming much more mainstream.
And this is exactly why Chess is being ruined.
somehow this controversy is a good thing for magnus cuz he regained his motivation to beat everyone
@Denisa K Y'all are trippin if you think Magnus is doing this on purpuse or with malicious intent.
He had an unbeaten streak of 53 in classical before sinfield cup so 2022 was quite a good year for him
He's pulling a Micheal Jordan. MJ would just invent beefs with his opponents to keep his edge in games.
The answer lies in the things he cannot say.Magnus has given us a rough outline of the things he cannot say.
Magnus' can rely on his intuition to prove his chess talent through his moves and games, and he may really well trust his intuition about Hans, but Magnus still makes bad moves over the board and I would hate to see somebody's career canceled because Magnus made a bad move off the board until actual proof is provided. Tournaments relying on Magnus for cheat detection and approval of participants sets a bad precedent if that's the direction we're heading.
This dialogue is like a masterpiece by itself.
Magnus please be brave and say what most of us are sure about : Hans is a selective engine user, he is getting sophisticated assistance ( not always a top engine move ) to get away with it. the way he crushed Levon ( g4) , Chucky and Duda is insane. the guy was 2450 2 years ago !
@Amber XV Stockfish 15 is the most powerful engine of this time, if it says its bad. Then the move is most likely bad.
@Mike Helterbrand and how do you know which engine is he using?
G4 was a bad move according to engine
How is he getting these moves though???
i have huge respect for magnus.. since the world championship match against Ian.. he speaks sensibly.. he doesn't rush.. he is not rash.. he looks more humble.. appreciates skill.. and knows exactly what he is doing.. he looks superior mentally.. and looks more balanced emotionally... They way he conducted this interview was so graceful.. he did not look rattled or emotionally charged.. but played it like chess... huge respect man... cheers!
As world champion he should have made a statement on his own saying he will comment on the cheating after the tournaments. It's a little disappointing that the interviewer had to push so hard to get him to say something so basic.
Magnus isn't stupid. He knows what he is doing and time will show whether he is sitting on some information that will show cheating or he is being malicious and trying to drag someone's name through mud. Either way he is doing it very well and making calculated moves. People who think he's just throwing a tantrum are brainlets.
@Mana Paws Are you new to chess? Like people call everyone fanboys often unjustified but damn, to say something like that about some random top 50 is just incredible. I can hit you up you after his candidates results in the off chance he actually makes it there.
@DAS I will wager Han's will be the WC for the next twenty years
@Mana Paws Lol yeah he's a modern day Morphy that's for sure. Wanna make a wager he never becomes WC?
@DAS Well you just watch and see. I have heard master level players saying that Han's positional and offensive skills are that of Paul Morphy and Bobby Fischer. Hans is the greatest chess player we will probably see in the next century.
Wait a minute, you mean to tell me a self-admitted cheater (that downplayed the amount and severity of his cheating mind you) who didn't want to tell us who his coach was, actually has a cheater for a coach ???Mind blown 🤣🤣🤣
wow kaja snare executed that interview masterfully. she asked the cheating-related the questions with just the right amount of confidence, without coming off as pushy or annoying. it made magnus react to the questions with laughter, even though he can't answer any of them openly.
They have known each other for years. And yes, the interview was perfectly orchestrated.
@LOLzum101 saying same thing of thousands others bots, ofc he is a bot
Are you a bot?
People don't even understand why he refrained from accusing Hans and are just commenting bad stuff about him.
I am not following chess for that long but i really admire Magnus. He has a personality of a man who don't give a f.. about anyone's opinion not a people pleasure, he refuse to play on world chess day by saying "not in a mood" 😂 and he do things in his own away and still a world champion 😍 He shattered that image of "nerd chess champion" he gives a vibe of a guy from your group
@Walk With Me Why. Because he´s a highly successful specialist?
He's still a nerd
Now I really I wonder what Magnus is going to say, since it seems he's still pretty adamant about Hans in otb... Even though Hans is clearly proving he can play at super GM level in this tournament, with cameras and drama hanging on his back. Better be sure Maggy!
Magnus' 34 points speak for itself
You have to remember Magnus is the WC so maybe he's like on a contract or something where he can't directly say certain things. I highly doubt MAGNUS would just let someone get away without being forced to. He's a smart player and smart person, who knows his motives, who knows if Hans is cheating. Magnus knows things, probably things we will never hear.
Guys, read the description. Magnus has clearly written Hans' coaches' name Maxim Dlugy here. Dlugy was the one person who supported Hans during the first wave of suspicions, saying that Hans was a gifted chess player or something similar. If Hans is cheating, his coach is most likely in on it.
Amazing player and a real sportsman.
Never a magnus fan before but recently I found myself as his big fan. Even with all this drama, I think no one else can bring this up except magnus.. All the best magnus.
Magnus is a genius in telling some underlying hints. Look at Niemanns Mentor and the door will open the truth.
Good interview... no tolerance with cheating in chess, please...Carlsen is not just world chess champion, he is also a Brave fighter, smart ,kind and honest person too...he is telling all he can tell us by now i guess...Best wishes in the future for chess world and Carlsen too
He is not just a world champion, but a salty sore loser too
cheating or not, Hans got the most incredible rise in FIDE chess ranking. For me its kinda suspicious, he got more or less 1 year to jump from 2500 +/- to 2700 rating. Even Magnus needed more or less 2,5 years to achieve it
@conillet Hans age is only 19!!
@38 Shounak Ray Chaudhuri Yes, but such "rises" make much more sense at a very young age. Niemand was significantly older when he started his ascent.
@38 Shounak Ray Chaudhuri Yes, firouza used to be top 01 with +/- 2 years to hit 2700
Well there are many youngsters who are achieving incredible rise now-a-days.....firouza,arjun,gukesh etc.
Ikr. He shouldn't be allowed to join tournaments if he was caught cheating twice before
*Gotta appreciate the interviewer’s persistence!*
Such a great interview
E a lenda abriu a boca, finalmente... Não disse nada, mas pelo menos prometeu falar após o torneio, ficamos no aguardo.
Pretty clear Magnus has been instructed not to comment on the subject because he could be liable for some kind of civil court case if he makes an allegation that hasn't been independently verified.So, his silence for the interim is not by choice, as he probably doesn't want to pay someone a million dollars.But, it's also pretty clear he will comment on it when he can, and he still thinks this is not resolved and that Hans is not cleared of suspicion. So the court of public opinion shouldn't be rendering a judgment yet, and yet I see many commenters doing that.
Magnus is an absolute legend. Good interview, but Magnus is very clear. He will come with a statement later on. G.O.A.T..
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He's not gonna let you hit bro
Kaja Snare asked the hard questions well and did a good job of moving forward with the interviews after Magnus gave his response.
Thank you so much for finally having the courage to shine a light on this and speak about it Magnus! Respect!However, i don't think it's a goof choice for you to resign, what if he really won man please just take it easy, it could really have been that 1 in a trillion game, please just keep playing and Demolish him! Do not lose it Magnus, please! You need to get the best rating ever in your life and drive it as high as you possibly can, do not destroy that!
So he will speak further after the tournament. Very well. This was something huge for chess and many eyes will be on it if he decides to do it on a interview style format
I swear Magnus is going to come out as Han's secret chess coach
I truly love this league of legends content from Magnus
Let's keep magnus motivated and out of the cave of retirement from being the greatest living person to command a universe of 8x8
I believe that if Magnus' team investigates and truly believe Hans didn't cheat that Magnus' team will come out and admit it. Honestly, if you believe someone is cheating, you are kind of in a Catch-22.On one hand, outright accusations are at risk of being false without further research. On the other, the correct course of action which is not accusing, but removing yourself from the situation to lessen the risk of unfair competition will naturally be met as a "soft" accusation. There really is no winning. Humans have, do, and will cheat. I don't expect people to never raise suspicions of unfair competition because the reality is it always happens.Magnus' only choice was the "soft" accusation which leads me to my original point; him and his team might end up determining there was no foul play. I don't know why we discount the possibility that they are doing their due diligence before an announcement of what occurred and what their ultimate verdict is. And if Hans did cheat and Magnus knows FOR SURE, then I would argue the best course of action is to properly determine if that was the case and have evidence. Magnus' silence is merely a consequence of our laws that will financially punish him for giving the public what they want.Btw Im not even too involved in chess or some Magnus Stan, I just think many are too quick to consider the whole picture in this case....
Great interview, nicely done.
Nicely Framed questions, and nicely defended by Magnus.My interpretation: Magnus clear indication is towards cheating.
Magnus is GOAT, The king of chess.
Kasparov is goat engines are king of chess
" I was caught cheating 2 times in my life but not this time!" Why would a genius need to cheat, ever? But I stormed through the ratings in little time! Check this man for ear/body implants! " I cheated cause I wanted to play stronger players" . Give me a break.
What she should have asked him, or what she should ask him next time, is: _"Besides the current measures already being taken at OTB events, what additional measures would you like to see implemented?"_... Because think about it...A cheater does not even have to use an electronic device on their person to cheat. They could simply receive signals from someone in the same room, or within visual range, (e.g. glasses on/off) and that would be enough for them to know that they have a winning move in the current position or that their opponent has made a mistake.
So 1.) According to Hikaru a player who played at the SLCC was also almost certain Hans was cheating 2.) Magnus clearly knows the conclusions being drawn about Hans and if this wasn’t about cheating or if Magnus did not suspect Hans was cheating then he wouldn’t just let Hans character and reputation just get tarnished like this I think there is a process that Magnus has to go by so let him focus on the chess for now and hopefully after the tournament we can get some more clarity
Personally Magnus' Love for the game of chess is his cause, and having that love offended once upon a time is his statement, is my conclusion.
Clever interview and clever answer, by not giving any comments about those crucial questions, seems to Me like Magnus basically confirming about the suspicion of Hans cheating while avoiding any lawsuit about defamation which may put against Him.Man, it must be so frustrating to have no evidence to proving misdeeds someone has done against you.But if Hans actually not cheating, then that's a very clever and very evil way to ruin someone's career.
Don't worry, the guy IS cheating.
I don't think Magnus will try to ruin anyone's career just by suspension, he must have something!
The increase in the power of technology was always going to make this situation inevitable.It now becomes a matter of whether detection can keep pace with evasion.This has been the situation in other sports for many decades now.For example, athletes are constantly administering new drugs, that the testing regime has not been adjusted to look for.It pretty much destroyed the credibility of athletics.Let us hope that chess doesn't go the same way.
*... It was a genious interview cuz maybe the interviewer herself was very sad about Magnus' loss; and therefore she was able to catch out different but important aspects from him and out of the drama itself with the question that it was whether cheating or not. ...*
very cool intervieuw I enjoyed every second of it.
"Should I believe someone who is the strongest chess player to ever live and trying to tell us that a certain person is cheating in chess? Obviously not because my rating is 800 and I dont understand how can a cheater play few inaccuracies and still cheat during crucial moves, I dont understand how someone can cheat in OTB wheras there has been many proven reports of cheating in OTB and subsequent bans but I am too stupid to search internet. I dont believe Hans can cheat ever again because he already cheated twice, so obviously he cannot cheat again."- Ardent Hans fan
The reference to Maxim Dlugy makes it clear that Carlsen does indeed think that Niemann is cheating. Niemann does not have a coach/mentor and has mentioned this in several interviews. Dlugy is also infamously known for being caught cheating online on numerous occasions even more so than Niemann.
Magnus has now directly insinuated that Hans cheated, calling Maxime Dlugy, a GM who was banned for cheating as his mentor. Hans was quite defensive about revealing who his mentor was at the Sinquefield Cup.
It's funny that she's interviewing him on the ethics of a person hiding something on the body, and using it to receive instructions from one's manager. And of course, she's doing it with instructions on what questions to ask from the producer in her ear.
I feel like Magnus was testing Hans to see if he was cheating and to see if Hans' coach was feeding him information. Once Magnus got what he was looking for, he drew.
People should understand that him not going straight to the point and dodging questions is not really like putting his head under the sand, right now he cannot speak, at all, regarding hans cheating because he might face legal consequences. I understand that he might be waiting for investigations/intels/etc. to unfold before diving further into the thing.He likely knows something is going on since he said he’s gonna speak more about it after the tournament ends.
Legal consequences of difamation because he has 0 proof of hans cheating 🤷♂️
@Riposte Laïque I don't agree that it's very clear. Overall percentage accuracy isn't the only way to cheat. I agree that the game against Magnus in St Louis didn't look suspicious nor did it trigger any anti cheating algorithm that I've heard of. However if you look back for example to the French team at the Olympiad they were also not flagged by these bots. Maybe I'm naive but sometimes you have to trust your gut. To me Magnus seems like a nice normal guy with no history of throwing his toys out the pram and Niemann seems like a brattier than average 19yo. I suspect he did cheat at the event, did before and has since. It's also worth saying that the one thing everyone has agreed on is that cheating and getting away with it is easy so we will probably never know.
Why didn't be speak after senquield cup that's the question
@Czento In CS GO a player (forsaken) was caught cheating in a tournament and his all competitors knew that he is gonna caught one day or another
He lost, got mad, and quit. Get over it lol
The interviewer did a great job.
Magnus is simply the best ever
Magnus is just a Great guy.I like him so very much.Very nice to have such people in our time.There are not that many.And i dont mean it chesswise..
Magnus didn’t fall for anything! You don’t realize, that the question is just as important as the answer. You can copy the same answer as responses to different questions and only sometimes be in legal troubles. He made the Interviewer ask vague questions, and only then gave his speech. Doesn’t matter how subtle Magnus speaks, if it’s an answer to a very direct (defamatory/accusative) question.
She did it very professionally
She's a great interviewer!
She was so brave
Hans did play extremely well in those 2 moves.
Yes, but these are the engine's first choices - coincidence?
Very professional interview.
Give him a break. He is entitled to his own opinion. It's not like he is asking organizers to throw hans out instead he himself quit. If he feels like hans has cheated and doesn't want to play him it's his choice. The only people who can demand explanation is the FIDE ethics board and even they called this a silent protest rather than disrespect. I like how everyone on the internet is entitled to their opinion but god forbid the literal world no. 1 has an opinion on someone with a shady past in a sport he dedicated his life to! You go magnus. The drama will eventually die out. Glad to see you are able to perform at such a stellar level in this tournament 🎉
Personally, I believe that Magnus has a strong reason to believe that something strange is going on...
This is that arc, when your main character is pretty OP already, but then he has to defeat the AI, to defend his title.