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  • Since the NVIDIA page was updated AFTER we filmed this. Here is some extra info. First Partner cards are visible on the site so you can see what they look like. Second, the 12GB 4080 is a shaved down version of the 16GB, not just in the amount of ram, but its also 2,000 less CUDA cores... this is similar to the 1060 3GB vs 6GB and its a slimy move... it makes it look like a 4080 but for all intents and purposes it is NOT. Its really more like a 4070.
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  • JayzTwoCents
    JayzTwoCents  Vor 11 Tage +4490

    Since the NVIDIA page was updated AFTER we filmed this. Here is some extra info. First Partner cards are visible on the site so you can see what they look like. Second, the 12GB 4080 is a shaved down version of the 16GB, not just in the amount of ram, but its also 2,000 less CUDA cores... this is similar to the 1060 3GB vs 6GB and its a slimy move... it makes it look like a 4080 but for all intents and purposes it is NOT. Its really more like a 4070.

    • C_twister
      C_twister Vor 3 Tage

      Called this whole scheme by NVIDIA when I snagged my first 3070fe... absolutely disgusting

    • Bits BFG
      Bits BFG Vor 6 Tage

      We might sell a few 3090 but we'll stick to AIBs bcs the better cooling and power management that NVIDIA CEO doesn't seem to value or understand. Plus with the way NVIDIA comp seems to treat the AIBs and community I would expect better RMA and CS from even XFX.
      It's sad to see EVGA go but I can see why they did it since the advent of FE we all knew with was going to happen, given no mention of the AIBs (idk if we missed it) I'd say they might cut those out. We kinda miss when AIBs used to make fun cards and it'll be interesting to see brackets become a regular fixture in the box...

    • ICommandoI
      ICommandoI Vor 7 Tage

      ETH GPU mining ceased on 16th Sept, so there should be no demand for GPU and crypto mining, gamers rejoice!

    • jasonmsw1973
      jasonmsw1973 Vor 7 Tage

      Could someone please tell me why nvidia gpus are more expensive in the uk? It baffles me.

    • William Clark
      William Clark Vor 8 Tage

      @Prof.Dr.Glotzenstein Doubtful, the specs are pretty well publicized and by now everyone knows there is a core difference. I, personally, don't get too caught up in the "specs" especially since these cores are different than previous cores from Nvidia. Until we get some hard benchmark numbers it will be hard to compare the old generation to the new generation.
      For me, all I care about is expected performance and at what price point. One area that will hard to compare is the AI frame-gen since that isn't available on older cards. If the 4080/12 performs like the 3080/12 at the same price, I'd probably buy the 40. Even if it's $50-100 more or if the performance is say 95% of a 3080, it may be worth getting the 40 series for the promised RT performance gains.

  • EAM25
    EAM25 Vor 11 Tage +2266

    Calling the 4070=408012GB is the biggest ripoff I've seen since Apple
    very shameful

    • Sillyman
      Sillyman Vor 8 Tage

      @Alex Rusu RAM doesn't matter as much as bit bus.

    • Walrussian
      Walrussian Vor 8 Tage

      @PSYCHO As someone who has used Android since 2012 until now I can assure you that IOS is far superior, for sure, if you want android specific features or prefer the ui, go ahead use android, but when comparing app performance in day-to-day apps such as snapchat, spotify, browsing and youtube, ios performs a lot better with less stuttering, loading times and such. Also most Androids, at least from the big brands such as Samsung, stop updating their phones after 2-3 years, for example my S20 that I has is therefore already obsolete.
      And since when did it become an argument that Samsung makes the iphone displays, like, I know? That doesn't really make samsung phones better though?
      The one point where android is better is when looking at cheap phones, but when comparing flagships iPhones are just better which is reflected in most industry benchmarks, but as I said, if you prefer android then go right ahead, use android, but then you should probably stop posting unsupported claims.

    • PSYCHO
      PSYCHO Vor 8 Tage

      @Walrussian And yet the A16 is held back by shitty iOS.
      😂😂😂
      Who do you think manufactures the "better display" on the iPhones??
      Samsung Display.
      The 2 main things that are great about iPhones are video recording and battery life.

    • Insert Name Here
      Insert Name Here Vor 9 Tage

      @Rozwell Jones Clearly a better card than my 10gb 3080

    • Christopher O'Connor
      Christopher O'Connor Vor 9 Tage

      The 4080 12gb being a 4070 pisses me off. The fact that EVGA left says it all.

  • Augusto
    Augusto Vor 10 Tage +59

    The 4080 is $1199, a $500 increase from the last gen. The $899 card is obviously a rebranded 4070.

    • Kwayke
      Kwayke Vor 7 Tage +6

      And either the 4070 or 4060 will be rebranded 30 series cards 💀💀

  • GamingRevenant
    GamingRevenant Vor 10 Tage +6

    The price of any of these cards have gone to such absurd amounts (including the shady move with the 4800-12GB) that nobody should buy these. Not if you can't afford it, not if you CAN afford it and NOT EVEN when you're a billionaire whale. There comes a point where the price for a single item completely outshines the actual product, and we've come to this point. Remember that for Europe prices, not a single card *starts under €1000.* Wrap your head around that. No single gamer will put down the bucks for these with the upcoming winter and electricity prices.

    • Yellowblanka
      Yellowblanka Vor 6 Tage

      Sadly, you know there are going to be a niche of the userbase who are going to pay for these, the people whose whole ego/personality revolves around having the "best" components, who in all likelihood don't have families/other expenses (especially if they're living at home) and seem to be Nvidia's ideal customer at the moment.

  • Jonathon Spears
    Jonathon Spears Vor 11 Tage +114

    Having just built a new system (5800x 6900xt) I'm not due to upgrade for another 4 or 5 years. That said, these prices are nuts. In a time where AMD is making things more affordable, I lean more toward them every day.

    • anarchid
      anarchid Vor 7 Tage +1

      @Based Madara to spread the world of God and show Christ is the only road to salvation✝️

    • Based Madara
      Based Madara Vor 7 Tage +2

      @anarchid what's the point of this comment? What context I am missing here

    • Wheelz
      Wheelz Vor 9 Tage

      @Ichi Capeta I ran a 1060 for about 4 years and was able to upgrade to a 2060 super. It runs most everything I play at high and ultra settings with no problems. I just ran across an excellent deal on a 3080. I'm set for a very, very long time now. I mostly play ESO, HLL, COD, and a few others like that. If not gaming, a watch a LOT of DEclips.

    • scott timbrell
      scott timbrell Vor 10 Tage

      @HybridEnergy I got my GTX 970 in 2011-2012ish time, ran that everyday all day until my upgrade last year to a RTX 3070 (wanted a 70 because of my attachment issues XD) and ive never looked back, RIP 970, you lasted me a good 10-11 years ;-;

    • HybridEnergy
      HybridEnergy Vor 10 Tage +3

      @NamelessLad He's god, he'd just run all our games on his heavenly server at 1000fps at 8k res and beam it down at god wifi. 4090ti would be nothing.

  • Raicaster
    Raicaster Vor 11 Tage +14

    Honestly, huge debate internally. Was planning on doing major extreme overhaul next year with custom cooling starting from AM5 and the next gen x90 series, however between the slimy behavior of NVIDIA and the fact that we lost EVGA as a great board partner *because* of said slimy decisions and mistreatment in general.. I'm going to be more patient this time around and await for AMD to respond with a uppercut, given they follow their RDNA3 path to domination as they did with Ryzen.

  • kc
    kc Vor 11 Tage +526

    *4070 rebranded to 4080 12gb to hike the price by 80% compared to current gen.* Imagine the amount of greed needed for that. The 2020/2021 mining craze sure damaged brains over at Nvidia HQ. 👀

    • PSYCHO
      PSYCHO Vor 8 Tage

      @Glen Young No company (Nvidia, Intel, AMD, etc) cares about gamers. 😂😂😂 They never did and they never will.
      They are publicly traded companies that answer to their shareholders. That simple.

    • PSYCHO
      PSYCHO Vor 8 Tage

      @Gurupimp10 Are you crazy?
      4080 16GB = a 4070 Ti.
      4080 12GB = a 4070.
      Wake up and pay attention.

    • PSYCHO
      PSYCHO Vor 8 Tage

      @kosajk Marketing 101:
      "Perception is greater than reality."

    • The United World of Workers
      The United World of Workers Vor 8 Tage

      it’s nature of capitalism

    • すもも麻子
      すもも麻子 Vor 11 Tage

      @Darryl Mayle the 4080 12GB is under the 3090Ti on raster by Nvidias own slides, so raster, without DLSS and RT. Now think how the "actual 4070" will perform.

  • Pedro Spidalieri
    Pedro Spidalieri Vor 11 Tage +11

    The true 4080 is the 16gb one. The 12 gb one should have been a 4070/ti (it also cuts down on cores). They didn't want to name it that because of the price increase

  • Tech News for Tech Noobs
    Tech News for Tech Noobs Vor 11 Tage +194

    The 4090 alone is literally 3 times what my mortgage is. When prices for a SINGLE item in my PC start getting to that price point....I stick with what I have already. And what I have I am more than happy with, especially after the other bombshell news drop Jay hit us with the other day regarding EVGA.
    So I will HAPPILY keep my 3070 Ti FTW3 Ultra.

    • Nate Goodwin
      Nate Goodwin Vor 15 Stunden

      @riothero313 Same, I had a case for years waiting for gpu's to get back to sane price points. I'll have my RTX 3070 TI for a long long time.

    • riothero313
      riothero313 Vor 6 Tage

      @W It's called now being poor and putting a healthy down payment down. Some people actually have money and don't spend every single extra cent that comes in every week. My mortgage is barely more than my car payment was before I payed that off.

    • riothero313
      riothero313 Vor 6 Tage +1

      My 3070ti works great for 1440 ultra wide and it took me forever to get so no reason to upgrade.

    • emperorjj1
      emperorjj1 Vor 6 Tage

      my wifes cousin is moving next month. 2700 a month for a 2bd apt in Portland

    • Jaxi
      Jaxi Vor 6 Tage

      ​@hey.godson "you will own nothing, and you will be happy"

  • John Craft
    John Craft Vor 11 Tage +27

    Waiting to see what AMD has to offer. Honestly my last Nvidia card was two GTX 280 in SLI ever since then it has been AMD, I am not really a fanboy, just the price to performance was better with AMD in the price range I was shopping at.

    • lmcgregoruk
      lmcgregoruk Vor 6 Tage

      Well I mean my current card is a 6GB GTX 1060, and the 2 cards I had before that were both AMD, but that's just because the price was better for that specific card at that specific time.

  • Illindi
    Illindi Vor 10 Tage +9

    4080 12G variance seems to be the 4070 looking at the stats of it compared to the 16G one. Feels like NVidia is pulling a fast one again.

  • Ivan
    Ivan Vor 11 Tage +702

    I think everyone is once again rooting for AMD to perform and give NVIDA a wake up call like they did to intel with the Ryzen launch

    • SpartanArmy117
      SpartanArmy117 Vor 8 Tage

      @Toidleboy Gaming To be clear I'm not pooing on AMD lol. They've made up and amazing amount of ground. But once again they're still just a tad off polish wise. It wasn't long ago you had to flash bios onto their flagship card to get the correct performance. Also I think it's either CoD or PUBG where AMD cards just microstuttered for no reason. AMD is competitive no doubt, but they're still just behind nVidia and that's an objective fact.

    • Toidleboy Gaming
      Toidleboy Gaming Vor 8 Tage

      @SpartanArmy117 considering i got an xfx speedster 6900xt black for $800 and it performs better than almost all 3090's in almost every multiplayer game out, amd is not nearly as far behind as people make them out to be. Especially when most of those people saying such things have never even owned a modern amd card. Now obviously nvidia has the headway in raytracing and performs better in most single player games but dont get it twisted, amd is coming hot.

    • Ethan Thompson
      Ethan Thompson Vor 8 Tage

      @B!g B If AMD wants to compete, that means that they will be looking to have comparabe GPU’s, with lower power consumption and price. I will wait for them to compete. If they dont, im happy where im at lol

    • SpartanArmy117
      SpartanArmy117 Vor 9 Tage

      @Hokhmah To be clear I love what AMD has been doing but beat them with RDNA 2? I really have to disagree there, infinity cache is a great concept and maybe that'll really push them forward but you won't find many games that the 6900xt beat the 3090 in and thats before mentioning how the whole AMD gpu experience is far more buggy. Once again I really do like AMD but they're definitely behind in the race.
      Oh also I do agree nVidia can't keep brute forcing the issue, but we've seen this before and they always figure it out. Competition has pushed them clearly and thats a great thing.

    • Hokhmah
      Hokhmah Vor 9 Tage

      @SpartanArmy117 In terms of raytracing and AI technologies like DLSS yes, but native rasterizing performance Nvidia is stagnating since the first RTX generation. Just brute forcing it with power and AMD matched them since RDNA 1 and even beat Nvidia with RDNA 2.
      I wouldn't be surprised if all their experience with Infinity Cache and what they learned with Ryzen and multi chiplet designs will give them even better results, leaving Ada-Lovelace in the dust in terms of rasterizing fps per watt perf.

  • TRON D
    TRON D Vor 11 Tage +1

    Still sitting on my EVGA 1080, I was really looking forward to upgrading these past few years, but with the stock manipulation and pricing spikes from Nvidia selling directly to miners, i'll just swap back to AMD, and now with the whole EVGA not wanting to work with Nvidia anymore for what looked like Nvidia being anti-competitive and the 40 series cards being two 30 series cards glued together- power draw included... I don't think I'll be coming back to Nvidia until they don't resemble Apple, even the cards are starting to look sterile and tasteless.
    I'm not mad- I'm just disappointed...
    If your reading this- give your crew a high-five for me ;)

  • MightiestBeard
    MightiestBeard Vor 11 Tage +2

    I have a 1080ti that still slaps, especially after upgrading to an i9 10900k. Realistically I'm never gonna be spending $1600 on a GPU, so I'll wait and see how these all compare to the 30 series and decide then. I do want to upgrade my card, just tough to justify it when the 1080ti still pumps everything I throw at it respectably.

  • Gavin Jones
    Gavin Jones Vor 11 Tage +7

    RTX30 series just started selling out here in AUS. Prices also went up after the announcement of the prices for RTX40 series. 408016GB will be $2,349 AUD and 408012GB $1,699 AUD. RTX3080ti 12GB $1,599AUD 2 days ago and Today is selling for $1899AUD. RTX 308012GB $1,199AUD 2 days ago today $1,389AUD.

  • ittadakimaho
    ittadakimaho Vor 11 Tage +1

    I would also honestly hold my candles here for the actual performance.
    2-4x faster than 30 gen is probably just towards ray tracing and not actual performance.
    Really would wait quite a few month before anything realistic is present.

  • Whiteshadow
    Whiteshadow Vor 11 Tage +997

    First GPU launch in recent memory I’m not excited for. Slimy ass tactics once again with Nvidia, and already the whole EVGA debacle left a sour taste in my mouth. I sincerely hope Radeon 7000 series stomps Nvidia into the ground.

    • HybridEnergy
      HybridEnergy Vor 10 Tage

      @Racsan Everything after the 10 series was awful.

    • Jon M
      Jon M Vor 11 Tage

      @Kitanashia Kiratani who cares? Do you own stock in nVIDIA? Do you own stock in EVGA? No? Then it has zero impact to you as a consumer. Stop taking sides to something you have zero investment in.

    • Kitanashia Kiratani
      Kitanashia Kiratani Vor 11 Tage

      @Jon M That isn't what happened, EVGA dropped NVidia because they felt insulted by the current CEO of NVidia. It was fully personal on the part of the guy in charge at EVGA. don't believe me? JaysTwoCents talks about it and so does Gamers Nexus. Both go into a fair amount of detail about it too. You might also want to keep in mind EVGA was losing money on their partner cards for NVidia.

    • FluffyPants
      FluffyPants Vor 11 Tage

      @GavinXDragon AMD is a tiny market, that's just reality.

  • PerfectlyFriedBread
    PerfectlyFriedBread Vor 11 Tage +2

    Don't see any games currently on the market or in development that need higher than a 3080/3090 for amazing 1440p or great 4k performance right now. I went 1000 series to 3000 and it seems like I'm fine till 5000 unless AMD shakes up the GPU market as well.

  • Githane
    Githane Vor 11 Tage +2

    Bet the AIBs will be screwed again here. Nvidia will probably be undercutting them with the FE cards again. These prices are insane though. Really hoping AMD has a knockout product in response, that doesn't cost so damned much.
    Also really hoping Intel eventually comes nipping at the (previously) lower end.

  • Praelia7or
    Praelia7or Vor 10 Tage +2

    I was looking forward to the challenge of keeping an overclocked 4080/4090 cool, after finding my EVGA 3080 overclocks about as well on air at 70c+ as it does sat at 37c due to power limitations. But with other pressures on energy and general living costs I think I will finish up my intended case build in preparation for next gen at this point.

  • Don in CO
    Don in CO Vor 11 Tage +10

    I am going to build an All AMD rig. Probably a 7800X with whatever AMD ends up calling their top dawg GPU, or the one right below it... Depends on cost and benchmarks.

  • andyastrand
    andyastrand Vor 11 Tage +810

    So for the lower level cards they’ve decided to price them as if they were still being bought by miners. So they saw the absurd price inflation during that horrible period and decided “yeah let’s stick with that”

    • scott timbrell
      scott timbrell Vor 10 Tage

      @Darth_OW This comment is very confusing, are you comparing a 1080 to a 4080? Like tit for tat? Or just the prices from the time they were released? I dont want to blurt out and say clearly a 4080 isnt the same as a 1080...are people not allowed to charge more based on the amount of; research, man power, prototyping costs, manifacturing costs ect? They are selling you a 4080 60% higher than a 1080, but of course they would? They just arent the same thing, a 1080 isnt as good as a 4080 is, and if it is, go and buy that instead, youll soon realise that a 1080 is dogshit comparatively.

    • HybridEnergy
      HybridEnergy Vor 10 Tage

      @Bill Lam Mean while , a PS5 is 400 bucks and your 1600 dollar card will be eating electricity to run PS5 ports. lol

    • Lareolan - KFP IT Specialist
      Lareolan - KFP IT Specialist Vor 10 Tage

      @Bill Lam You need gas to get around, you need food to live.
      You don't need a 4090 to game, so fuck nVidia, and we'll see how much they slash these prices in 6 months when the sales volumes don't match their expectations since almost no one will be buying them at that price point.

    • SpartanArmy117
      SpartanArmy117 Vor 11 Tage

      @Pr0ph3tZ You're wrong. If these companies are as greedy as you say they are (and they are actually) then you know they don't just want money but they want all the money haha. That means they have to beat the competition though. AMD is not friends with nVidia and I guarantee they aren't colluding to get a few 100$ more. They want to put each other out of business and that's why competition is good for the consumer.

    • FSAPO
      FSAPO Vor 11 Tage

      They did this when Turing launched too, since it launched right at the tail end of the previous Crypto boom.

  • staticishock96
    staticishock96 Vor 11 Tage +1

    I'm going to stick with AMD. I tried AMD's current series and I have had 0 issues with the card and their software is nice.

  • Treeface
    Treeface Vor 11 Tage +6

    Still gonna wait for the 5000 series. I'm interested to see how well DLSS 3.0 plays out with games but was more intrigued with that mod remastering software they briefly showed. Seemed a bit hard to believe but I'll be keeping my eye on how well that works with games. If that just enables us to throw our old games into it and remaster them with raytracing, improved textures, etc. then not only will I not feel bad about waiting but it'll make the new price points easier to swallow.

  • Steven
    Steven Vor 11 Tage +2

    As someone who hasn't had a Radeon card since the days of ATi I'm going with the "screw you, nVidia" approach. With their antics I feel dirty owning a 3080. I'm planning on building a sim rig in the next year or two and it's going to be AMD-powered.

  • Chad P
    Chad P Vor 11 Tage

    Thank you NVIDIA for validating my choice to go with the AMD build I completed earlier this year.
    One could say that ALL manufacturers will try to pad their bottom line, but NVIDIA seems to go that extra step as if they're trying too hard to be like Apple.
    Hard pass.

  • Dillon M
    Dillon M Vor 11 Tage +421

    Really scummy to have 2 different 4080s like that. I can already see the scams from here. Will wait for AMD to release info on their cards, but with EVGA gone and Nvidia pulling shit like this I'm most likely going team red this time

    • Dillon M
      Dillon M Vor 11 Tage

      @Darth_OW I already am all AMD since 5700XT but definitely sticking with it, not a huge fan of RT or DLSS anyways as I mostly play competitive shooters

    • Bigdog1787
      Bigdog1787 Vor 11 Tage

      @Pokerus if EVGA was planning to sell any time soon they sell it wile making Nvidia cards they just devalued there own company by at lest 50% or more leaving Nvidia. I don't see them selling any time soon with a big move like this not in the next 10 years anyhow.

    • Pokerus
      Pokerus Vor 11 Tage

      @Bigdog1787 Looking into it EVGA has completely exited the GPU market. No intel,AMD, or Nvidia cards as long as the current CEO is in office. I do think that he may not last as CEO if thats the case. AMD should be seeing this as a way to maybe work with EVGA as their reference board designer, and maybe getting them to be an exclusive partner and actually take care of them. Shoot even if they could buy EVGA, and let them operate as is but getting to do some cool designs for AMD cards would be a good idea for AMD

    • Bigdog1787
      Bigdog1787 Vor 11 Tage

      @Pokerus they said they won't make AMD cards though sounds like there could be a possibility of a Intel one as they asked how far along is Intel at releasing cards.

    • Luis Vasquez
      Luis Vasquez Vor 11 Tage

      @CodyMonster sorry if I misunderstand what ur saying... But isn't that basically the same as I said? 4080 12 GB would normally have been the 4070 (ti), but Nvidia are now calling it the 4080 to charge a higher price. Like it's the same die as the 4080 but with more disabled cores

  • GamerStank
    GamerStank Vor 11 Tage +1

    I always buy a high end gpu. I also hold onto my cards for a while. I had a 1080ti and now a 3080 I will probably just skip the 4000 series. The rest of my system is due for an update through… kinda crazy the price of the gpu is about the same as alll the other components combined.

  • TDewar1987
    TDewar1987 Vor 10 Tage +1

    40 series sounds nice, but I may just go after a 3080ti once the 4080s drop

  • Smasher Devourer
    Smasher Devourer Vor 10 Tage +3

    The new cards might be "2-4x" faster, but is there even a game out right now that can max out a 3090Ti? Graphics would have to improve quite a bit over the next year or so to justify purchasing a new 40 series card.

    • Yellowblanka
      Yellowblanka Vor 6 Tage

      A few games at 4K, like Cyberpunk etc. but it's not many, even at 4k. This series is basically them focusing in on e-peeners that will pay any insane amount for a modest performance increase and likely run more benchmarks than games anyway.

  • benjamin rouvier
    benjamin rouvier Vor 11 Tage +1

    i have a theory about those high prices fo the 4000 serie:
    -they want to get rid of 3000 serie, but at a good price
    -so they launch next gen before concurents at high price
    -all of a suddent, those 3000 series start to look quite good even tho they are a bit over priced, and those who still want 4000 serie can get it for premium price
    -so guess who get to get rid of their extra stocks, for a good price, while also making you overpay for 4000 serie. its a win win for them
    -and then amd comes up
    "oh.... ok... you win amd.... we will allign with our prices on your new serie, after we stonked for 5 months on it and on the 3000 serie...."

  • Gomola Speed
    Gomola Speed Vor 11 Tage

    I really hope amd can provide some decent competion this generation. No company needs that more than nvidia.

  • Himitsu
    Himitsu Vor 11 Tage +3

    Tbh since the shortages during 20 gen the prices for all the cards and markups are insane. It will be a while until i swap my GTX1080.

  • MadDarthMatt
    MadDarthMatt Vor 9 Tage +2

    I got my 3080 for $1200 on Ebay near launch as it was impossible to get one. I would be paying less or the same for the 4080 if I get one at cost. It looks like Nvidia studied what people were willing to pay during the pandemic/data mining and set their new prices to match.

    • Cold Beer
      Cold Beer Vor 9 Tage +3

      Idiots showed that they’ll pay anything…so what do you expect? And I’m kind of one of those idiots, for buying the msi 2080 ti for about 1600 usd years ago.

  • Unholy Nexus
    Unholy Nexus Vor 11 Tage +3

    I’m sticking with my 2060 Super. It plays most games at Ultra or High Settings just fine.

  • Zigzag James
    Zigzag James Vor 11 Tage +240

    They must be insane if they think people can actually afford to pay these prices. $900 for a rebranded 4070 is nuts. Yes you get double the performance but for almost double the price. Please don't buy these cards guys. Vote with your wallet don't give them your money for this

    • Michael Abella
      Michael Abella Vor 8 Tage

      @Manakuski because of Pandemic lul

    • s c
      s c Vor 9 Tage

      the more you buy the more you save.

    • Serious99
      Serious99 Vor 11 Tage

      @Oscar Nilsson When you say people with jobs are you talking about yourself or about your parents that buy stuff for you?

    • Clivey
      Clivey Vor 11 Tage

      Stop being a Jayz sheep. Its not a rebranded 4070, how can it be a rebranded 4070 when he doesn't even know what a 4070 spec will look like, the spec hasnt been released yet for a 4070. All through the 10, 20 and 30 series that have done different specs on memory and cuda cores. Whether you like it or not, Jayz has got it wrong here. If you don't understand the specs then maybe you should buy a console.

    • Oscar Nilsson
      Oscar Nilsson Vor 11 Tage +1

      @Pradeep R oh and btw, they are going to sell put fast af, meaning that people thing the price is good enough to buy

  • Carl Otto
    Carl Otto Vor 9 Tage

    1: The amount of heat coming from these is actually entering the range of dangerous (for a whole system).
    2: The power draw is actually approaching dangerous for power strips and cheaper nema cables. They draw enough that some people are going to pop breakers or melt outlets that are in poor condition... and I bet a lot of cheap PSUs are going to pop or catch fire.
    Who wants to take bets on how soon the first lawsuit happens?

  • Brian Irons
    Brian Irons Vor 11 Tage

    From there keynote, it would appear they are focusing more on the software aspect with what might possible be a industry changing DLSS 3.0
    Though the hardware specs appear to be cut down, but the software has much better control over that hardware

  • Josh_S550
    Josh_S550 Vor 11 Tage +16

    I think I'm gonna keep my EVGA 3080 Ti for a while. I just built the system earlier this year and I should be able to game for many years to come with my current rig and that's all I use it for.

    • Jared Champagne
      Jared Champagne Vor 10 Tage +5

      Nobody that’s just gaming needs to upgrade from a 3080…it’s MORE than enough.

  • nix calder
    nix calder Vor 10 Tage +1

    Honestly, Nvidia is getting on my bad side with their disrespect lately. I picked up a 3070 used (EVGA lol) and I think I will stick with it for a while. When I do upgrade, it will probably be team red for me. Sure Nvidia is the industry top, but I think AMD is starting to pick up it's game. Also, that power consumption is outrageous.

  • Jim Brown
    Jim Brown Vor 11 Tage +368

    Hard pass on this generation. These prices are absolutely insane. I'm usually an every-other-gen upgrader, but that stops here, even with the proclaimed 2x performance, it'll require a full system upgrade to even come close to taking advantage of these cards. At these price points, it's simply not worth it until it finally comes time to upgrade the rest of my system, which is only 2 yrs old.

    • Niko Leven
      Niko Leven Vor 8 Tage

      @Ghost _Trapz their single threaded performance is extremely similar, and games now don't use that many cores. Performance will be extremely similar

    • Ghost _Trapz
      Ghost _Trapz Vor 8 Tage

      @AliceLycoris the 4070 price will be $799. And for performance it won’t be far below the 4080 12gb as it’s suppose to be a 4070 just renamed it to 4080 so they can sell it at a higher price.

    • Ghost _Trapz
      Ghost _Trapz Vor 8 Tage

      @Niko Leven highly doubt it. The 12700k will bottleneck the 4090 slightly. However I do believe the 4080s card will work perfectly with the 12700k

    • Ghost _Trapz
      Ghost _Trapz Vor 8 Tage +1

      @Magnan Imus yes pretty much 😂😂😂😂

    • Emulation_Junkies
      Emulation_Junkies Vor 10 Tage

      @ViPER5RT10 Man ive spent like 100 hours modding GTA with NVE lol! Im about to move to modding RDR2 too. Edit : You dhould try Dying Light 2 though, fun as hell.

  • HesitationVR
    HesitationVR Vor 11 Tage +1

    TSMC increased prices between 20-30%, so yes the prices go up for the gpus, i expect AMD to also do the same with radeons gpus since they both used TSMC this time

    • Dave Webster
      Dave Webster Vor 11 Tage

      Except AMD has smaller dies so it costs them less per chip / card. And nvidia is scalping.

  • Adithya Hegde
    Adithya Hegde Vor 11 Tage

    I guess it's time for amd , being more power efficient and doing the same job for more or less fps. I don't think paying the premium is worth it anymore . I guess intel is also doing a good job on their arc cards unless they fix their drivers .

  • Netsuko
    Netsuko Vor 11 Tage +2

    That’s almost €2000 in Europe. $ and € are basically the same right now. So it’s literally scalper prices from last year, except this time Nvidia cut the middle man and is scalping us directly.

  • Quazakaharet
    Quazakaharet Vor 11 Tage +1

    Considering my 9600k and wife’s ryzen 3 3200, and 60 hz tvs we play on, my 3080 and 2070 are probably overkill for what Were doing as is.
    My big upgrade right now is changing to noctua fans as my others are dying after less than 2 years. Excited about having a quieter pc. That will do for a couple years I think. I can’t see half my rgb anyways with how my tower is mounted to the wall so this will fill my tinkering/upgrade needs.
    Happy gaming.

    • nimrodery
      nimrodery Vor 11 Tage

      I think the white Noctuas are due Q2 next year, if you can deal with dying fans for a while. I always have spare fans in case one dies, plus a few brown Noctuas of course. RGB fans just don't have the performance and the pretty ones are pricier than Noctuas.

  • npphil
    npphil Vor 11 Tage +273

    I am rooting for AMD to come out swinging this time. And waiting until the reviews for both brands are in.

    • ultratronger
      ultratronger Vor 6 Tage

      @Lepi its probably not the gpu but rather your monitor or ram

    • Harblo
      Harblo Vor 11 Tage

      @lyianx the 6800 XT was roughly on par with the 3080 in performance. but you have to remember the 3080 10gb had an MSRP of $699 and the 6800 XT was $649 . it wasn't all that compelling of a sell. they need to do more.

    • The Jsix
      The Jsix Vor 11 Tage

      @Twitch Coolbob66 light years ahead no but recently I have liked what AMD has been doing with their drivers it makes it far more bare able as a day to day basis of use. The work has been put in and I definitely notice. Having it all together in one app is now just so nice like wish Nvidia did that fr. So I think a few more updates of the software will make them have better software. But for me still I can't wait to see dlss type stuff on amd make me even more of a fan.

    • ArtisChronicles
      ArtisChronicles Vor 11 Tage +1

      @Adam I don't see anything shifting anytime soon. Even when AMD had good drivers and their low end cards were better, Nvidia was what kept getting bought.
      This presentation clearly shows that they don't care and people are still gonna end up buying their cards. They know it, you know it. There's just no point.
      This is the reason I actually feel AMD would save themselves a lot of trouble by just pulling out and focusing more on powering more simple graphics. Like maybe an integrated panel on a simpler computer.

    • Descatusat
      Descatusat Vor 11 Tage

      @Lepi When are we going to figure out what these driver issues are? I see people calling out driver issues every gen on both sides and other people having zero driver issues. I've had my 6700XT since it came out and have had zero system issues and not even a single driver crash. I had a couple driver crashes with my Vega 56 over a few years of running it and that was the most temperamental card I've had since my HD 5770. The only issue I've had with my 6700XT is coil whine that lasted almost a month and then went away.
      This stuff has to come down to specific system configurations or even user error in some cases. I have the Asus Dual OC for reference and I was worried about possible issues because I'm just keen on always going Sapphire but was able to snag this card for a few hundred below the Nitro+. I do always keep my PC streamlined for gaming only with zero bloat and fine tune my clocks and voltages but that can't be the only reason I never have software issues. I've been running AMD since 2003 and the biggest issues I've ever had was with that Vega 56 and that just came down to memory OC being nigh impossible with my particular card.

  • Jack Jones
    Jack Jones Vor 11 Tage

    Nvidia is going hard on the price gouging with this series. 💰

  • Logan Koeth
    Logan Koeth Vor 10 Tage

    Patiently awaiting AMD’s rebuttal. Will I keep my 6900xt when I upgrade from my 5600x? Will I stay AMD or will I go Back to team green since my 1070ti.
    Price is expensive but I’m excited we’re in a GPU and CPU race at the same time.
    RIP my bank account.😅

  • Joshua Bohlen
    Joshua Bohlen Vor 11 Tage +2

    I will wait for the next gen of Radeon and the first independent comparison of them. Maybe next year I'll go and update my system based on price and performance

  • Ipurgepeople
    Ipurgepeople Vor 11 Tage

    I probably would have jumped on the 4080 16GB, but my 1080 was dying on me and I was forced to pay scalper prices at the peak (Dropped almost 3 grand on my 3080... first and only one I ever found) so this sucker better last me a good 4+ years like my 1080! So maybe I'll be interested around 6000 series. Maybe.

  • CombatWombat594
    CombatWombat594 Vor 11 Tage +418

    I really hope the departure of EVGA really hits Nvidia where it hurts, and they see that they can't just make people spend whatever they want them to. This is absolutely ridiculous that Nvidia (and other companies at this point...) can get away with this shit...

    • Hua En
      Hua En Vor 11 Tage

      ​@Stephen Patterson If we followed this argument for every generation of technology, we would be spending tens of thousands of dollars for a modern desktop. Tech is one of the few things that has consistently dropped in price and increased in value, generation to generation. That's how we've managed to end up with such a technologically advanced modern world in the first place.
      It's ridiculous to expect a consumer to pay that much money for a gpu. This isn't even the worst part, it's the fact that the budget range is now virtually nonexistent, and the midrange is moving out of reach, making gpus even more unobtainable for the average consumer than ever. I really hope that APUs can fill the void that budget and mid-range gpus used to fill in the next few years.

    • john g
      john g Vor 11 Tage +1

      Got to be careful with the 2-4x performance improvement for the price bump. That's marketing bs on very select games, probably with DLSS3. I'll wait for a lot of independent reviews before i go anywhere near my credit card. My EVGA 3070 is still going strong

    • kosajk
      kosajk Vor 11 Tage

      @Stephen Patterson wana bet about that 2-4 time performance in real usage?

    • BL W
      BL W Vor 11 Tage +2

      Forcing EVGA out of the market definitely took this committed 4080 16GB customer out of the market! The day after the EVGA Bombshell, I went out and bought a brand new EVGA 3080ti FTW3 Ultra! I think I am still going to see a notable uplift from my 1080ti FTW3 while supporting EVGA and flipping Nvidia the bird at the same time!

    • Green Bow
      Green Bow Vor 11 Tage

      @Stephen Patterson Agreed. Jenseng also told us that the new gen cards can take workloads off the CPU. I think he was referring to CPU intensive titles like open worlds. Having a high-end 4000 series could be very good.

  • chublez
    chublez Vor 10 Tage

    Yes. Got a 3090 when they where over msrp cause I gave up waiting. Wouldn't make sense to not be willing to pay less for more. Though I'll at least wait to see which cards are best and might stall tell I just do a fresh build and then sell off current rig as a ready to go setup.

  • Simon Blench
    Simon Blench Vor 11 Tage

    I'm conflicted, I've a 3080 but depending on performance difference between that and the 4080 12GBz I may just hold on. I like being on the high end but kind of feels pointless if the real world improvements aren't there, suppose time and benchmarks will tell.

  • LtColVenom
    LtColVenom Vor 10 Tage

    Hey Jayz, there's a video I'd love for you to make at this juncture (before the upcoming black friday):
    What's the best "bang for the buck" current gen (rizen 5000 + 3080/6800xt) system to get as a last 'huzzah" to the AM4 socket?
    Looking for premium MoBo + DDR4 ram recommendations along with your idea of a good CPU/GPU combo to get as overstock prices are about to pummel down...

  • tbrayden3
    tbrayden3 Vor 11 Tage +1

    Wish Nvidia would release their top of the line GPU (4090 Ti) first, but nooo they have to play games and wait like a year to release it so they can make sure it outperforms whatever AMD is offering.

  • Marco Canepa
    Marco Canepa Vor 11 Tage +361

    From what I've heard leakers say, it seems that the "lower memory 4080" is actually what was supposed to be the 4070, but rebranded to be able to charge more for it and not affect the sales of 30 series.

    • Green Bow
      Green Bow Vor 9 Tage

      @IsakH85 Do you know that. Very sad if true.

    • IsakH85
      IsakH85 Vor 9 Tage

      Don't need to be a leaker to see that. It's a 104 die with 192 bit memory bus, that's 70 class specs.

    • Green Bow
      Green Bow Vor 11 Tage

      Somewhere on the video they listed 3050 , 3060, and 3060 Ti, along with Lovelace.

    • F15Ranger
      F15Ranger Vor 11 Tage

      stop speculating sheesh

    • Alexander Stevens
      Alexander Stevens Vor 11 Tage +1

      This feels like the whole gtx 970 thing all over again.

  • Rob Kinney
    Rob Kinney Vor 11 Tage

    29 months ago I built my whole PC for around $100 less than a 4090 costs. Yeah, I'm not shopping in that price range for just a GPU. I'll probably wait and buy a 4070 about this time next year (depending on value at that time).

  • Brandon Gray
    Brandon Gray Vor 11 Tage +1

    I just chuckle at these presentations with the latest insane price list from NVidia - won't affect me as I just flat out WON'T pay what they want. I've bought my last couple cards used, and that will continue. I'll end up getting a 4090 for $1k or less with a full cover waterblock installed in 1-2 years. These insane prices will continue as long as people are undisciplined and keep forking over the money to Jensen.

  • Paulie bomster
    Paulie bomster Vor 11 Tage

    I have an Asus Strix 3080 Ti , Ryzen 7 5800x , gaming at 1440p and I am interested in Ray-tracing. Would it make sense to sell my card now and add a little bit to it and buy a 4080 16GB when it comes out or should I skip the current gen GPU and wait for the 5000 series directly?

  • Jesse Dery
    Jesse Dery Vor 10 Tage

    I've potentially got a bonus coming my way q1 2023, so I'll see what's available then. A 4080 does not sound entirely unreasonable.

  • Ethan Stoltz
    Ethan Stoltz Vor 11 Tage +229

    I was planning on waiting to see what RDNA3 performance looked like anyways this year, but with a $500 MSRP markup for the 4080, I have a feeling I'll be buying my first team red GPU come next year. The 2-4x performance increase advertised by Nividia seems like a tactic to make people less skeptical of the massive price hike. I'd be surprised to see those numbers backed up in 3rd party testing with exception of very specific use cases.

    • StoleMyCoconut
      StoleMyCoconut Vor 11 Tage

      Let's hope AMD delivers and... Does not fuck up their drivers.

    • Des FTW
      Des FTW Vor 11 Tage

      I'm not sure how long these prices will last. Rumors are that they bought more production capacity than they needed and with prices like these I'm not sure how many people are willing to pay this much (many of course but likely fewer than people who wanted/bought a 3080). From their presentation I am fairly confident that these high prices are due to them still having 30 series stock they need to get rid of so these new cards are basically just being added on top of the current product stack.

    • Nadeem Ahmed
      Nadeem Ahmed Vor 11 Tage

      @Carlos Cazares The 3080MSRP was always above 700 and you couldn't find one cheaper than 900. it's only now that used cards are cheaper because because miners are dumping their stock

    • Chris Wright
      Chris Wright Vor 11 Tage

      How do you know it's a mark up if your not the one buying and sourcing marketing the product

    • InSomnia DrEvil
      InSomnia DrEvil Vor 11 Tage

      Technically he talked about games when he said 2x, 3x and 4x the performance. So lets hope he really meant FPS.

  • Andrew Shaw
    Andrew Shaw Vor 11 Tage

    I am still bedding in my 3070ti, and after sadly watching EVGA's actions, and I support them, when my 3070 Ti needs retiring, I'm going back to team Red. nVidia aren't the leaders they used to be and I plan to vote with my wallet.

  • irishScott2
    irishScott2 Vor 11 Tage

    Bought a 3080 just last month, I only game at 2k, it handles that great. I play Total War Warhammer 3 maxed out with no issues, and that's the max I need graphics-wise. No use case for the 40 series for me, plus I'd have to upgrade my PSU. Sitting this one out

  • Bill Thompson
    Bill Thompson Vor 10 Tage

    Gonna wait and see what the prices vs performance add up to. If they pan out, I'll get a 4000 series. If not, I'll wait another generation.

  • Matt Sonsthagen
    Matt Sonsthagen Vor 11 Tage

    Ever since watching the nvidia evga video, I just haven’t been excited about hearing about 40 series cards. After hearing how much of a pain in the a** nvidia is to do business with it’s hard to want to support them any further.

  • DiddyReviews
    DiddyReviews Vor 11 Tage +219

    Let's hope AMD step up and massively undercut nvidia. The 6900XT at launch was £400 cheaper than 3090 and in rasterisation was slightly below or on par with 3090. If AMD can do this again then I'm making the jump to team red.

    • Carl Otto
      Carl Otto Vor 7 Tage +1

      @AdaaDK yeah i have no intention of buying a card that expensive with that kind of tdp...

    • DiddyReviews
      DiddyReviews Vor 7 Tage

      @Tom Kazansky great choice

    • AdaaDK
      AdaaDK Vor 7 Tage

      @Carl Otto heard heard. :-)
      A card with an AMD equviliant to a DLSS 3/4, without any downsides, AND lowpower to preformance ratio, + high raster preformance, and no (Or barely) raytracing/parth tracing pref, is really just what we need. Currently none of the tracings matter, so paying extra for a die that alows it makes no sence, on top of the fact that gpus are getting overly expensive (i mean 4070(4080-12g) for 899USD + 25VAT(yes thats our sales tax where i live), is absolutely insane pricing for a 70 class/tier card, hell even for a 80 or 90 class imo.

    • Tom Kazansky
      Tom Kazansky Vor 8 Tage

      @JesterNutzy 6800XT

    • Tom Kazansky
      Tom Kazansky Vor 8 Tage +1

      And this is why I bought a 6900XT.

  • Cloud121
    Cloud121 Vor 10 Tage

    I was thankful before, but even moreso now that I was able to get a 3090 12GB (that's what I call the 3080 Ti) for $360 after discounts, rebates, credit card points, etc. a little over a month ago.

  • FallenActual
    FallenActual Vor 11 Tage +1

    I just bought a 3080 TI and I already have a two 3070s (from a RMA issue week one) I'm skipping 40 series this go around after all the bs with price manipulation and EVGA leaving the market, I just replaced my power supply from a bronze 800 to a gold 850 because of a power supply failure. so the 40 series hard pass at this point

  • Kitanashia Kiratani
    Kitanashia Kiratani Vor 11 Tage +1

    Nvidia is being stupid with these prices, we're still in an economic collapse. Honestly this is the time for AMD to come in and take advantage of Nvidia's greed.

  • Cristian Roth
    Cristian Roth Vor 4 Tage

    I was inches away from buying an RTX 3070 (that's my budget, unfortunately). Performance wise, I still think it would be better to wait for an RTX 4060 Ti. But price wise....the RTX 3000 series sounds more and more appealing. Especially given the prices in Europe.

  • Ryan Condie
    Ryan Condie Vor 11 Tage +666

    The 4080 12GB was supposed to be the 4070. It's based on the mid sized AD104 core, 12 GB of GDDR6X on a 192 bit bus. Those are 4070 stats but they wanted to chuck a 4080 pricetag on it.

    • IdeaBoxful
      IdeaBoxful Vor 9 Tage

      @Kninez Banky DLSS and raytracing is Nvidia's trump card which I dont think AMD will catchup with RDNA 3. But my point actually is engagement in the gaming industry today. Is it just about render whizz bang?
      As I stated before, I am see the quality of gaming itself dropping and all they have to offer is graphics wizardy like more fps with raytracing on. Spending the kind of money that Nvidia is asking is obscene for the entertainment value per dollar spent.
      I think Nvidia overcooked it this time wrt. to the gaming market given recession etc. Jensen is under pressure on the falling revenue at Nvidia given the actual market conditions now post mining dump. And his investors are out baying for his blood. He is between hell and a hard place.

    • IdeaBoxful
      IdeaBoxful Vor 9 Tage +1

      @Xainfinen Just came off watching Top Gun "Maverick" . Now that is what I call "craft and soul". Very minimal CGI, strong commitment to the story. Who in the gaming industry can claim what Tom Cruise did with this movie. I am looking to indie devs.. Hope to see a gem..

    • Kninez Banky
      Kninez Banky Vor 10 Tage

      @IdeaBoxful With Inflation in general I can understand price hikes, but Nvidia have lost their damn minds.....the 4060 should cost 350 to 450 max......4070 should cost 500 to 650 max. 4080 should cost 700 to 900 max......4090 should cost 1000 to 1300 max......I'm just eagerly waiting for performance reviews....a jump from samsungs subpar 8nm node to TSMCs 4N Node alone might be enough to double performance regardless of architectural improvements.
      On paper the 4090 and 3090ti are both at 450W, yet the 4090 has over 50% more cuda cores and about a 35% higher clock speed, that alone doubles the performance.
      Then stack up architectural improvements, better RTX cores and better Tensor cores. I can see why Nvidia stated the 2-4 times performance increase.
      Thus most games barebones would be twice as fast, once you turn on ray tracing and/or DLSS in some titles, the performance can be tripled or quadrupled. Maybe this is the generation that finally makes Ray traced gaming standard.
      Maybe I'll finally upgrade my 1060 laptop to a 4060/4070 laptop next year.

    • Kninez Banky
      Kninez Banky Vor 10 Tage

      @Zarazek Zarazkowy Yes, 1060 had a 3GB model, Pascal is old (2016), at that time 512MB chips were still being made......the 3GB 1060 used 6 512MB chips, the 6GB 1060 (like my laptop) has 6 1GB chips.

    • Kninez Banky
      Kninez Banky Vor 10 Tage

      @Jake Tapper Actually the 1080ti and 2080ti both have 11 chips, with a 352bit bus. 384 is for 12 chips and 12/24 GB VRAM.

  • Rayman2170
    Rayman2170 Vor 10 Tage +6

    I've only ever bought EVGA graphics cards since the GTX 580 to now with the 3080ti. Their warranties, RMA process and Step-up program were all top notch. I think I'm gonna sit this generation out, see what happens next gen.

  • Thoth
    Thoth Vor 11 Tage

    With Nvidia artificially inflating prices I have decided on AMD plus looking at linux so really a no brainer.

  • The Bogeyman
    The Bogeyman Vor 11 Tage

    The improvments ”on paper” seem good, However I am not looking to upgrade from 5900x + 3080 until 2026-2027 at very list.
    It’s too early and expensive for DDR5 too.

  • Chris Chapman
    Chris Chapman Vor 10 Tage

    @ jay
    Do you think that Nvidia made the price so high so more people will go buy a 30 series card then discount the cards on launch?
    it just seems like something Nvidia would to to sell old stock.

  • Quatre04
    Quatre04 Vor 11 Tage +225

    After the customer service experience I just had with a fan issue I had with my evga 3080ti I feel the need to support evga the only way I can as a consumer and not buying another Nvidia card till they change their treatment of card makers. Not only did egva walk me through what was causing my fan to do what they were doing but walked me through the mob bios to fix it and only had a short wait to talk to a tech. EVGA you are a legend and I hope you can in the near future continue to make gpus.

    • Kevin Meuszynski
      Kevin Meuszynski Vor 11 Tage +1

      Testimonials like yours and others kinda make me wish I went with an EVGA GPU when I was shopping for one. Then again, whether the warranty will maintain into the future has me wondering; have they held back enough to have warranty replacements for what's already been sold, etc.? Don't get me wrong, I'm perfectly happy with my ROG STRIX, so far. But EVGA's rep for customer service and more-recent positive build quality rep has given me FOMO from time-to-time... except, again, when EVGA's CEO went and took a financial header off the top floor, there... What a move that was! Lol.

    • Anony Mousse
      Anony Mousse Vor 11 Tage

      Maybe they could collaborate with AMD and Intel and make boards for their chips. I would definitely buy one of those cards.

    • Dio Cub
      Dio Cub Vor 11 Tage +1

      I undervolted it so it doesn't get too hot to cause problems with the fan, mine was also an evga ftw as well. But I took precautionary measures so thay it won't get to that point.

    • AllMark NoBite
      AllMark NoBite Vor 11 Tage +4

      Another fanboy of EVGA. They will be sorely missed. Skipping the 4000 series altogether, but looking forward to RDNA3. Show us you've been paying attention, AMD.

    • Jimmy
      Jimmy Vor 11 Tage +2

      @David Bonner I've been fortunate enough to never have a GPU failure over the 20 years I've been using EVGA, but I absolutely believe you. My buddy's 1070 died and they gave him a 2070 as a replacement. They will truly be missed in the GPU space.

  • Great Taz Gaming
    Great Taz Gaming Vor 11 Tage

    Thank Jay for taking the time to get this info down to the everyday person. I need a major over all upgrade. I'm still run a GTX 1060 6Gb and yes it is still kicking ass. When I do upgrade it'll be more then likely to a 30 series. Looking at a 3090 Ti.

  • Impulse
    Impulse Vor 11 Tage

    I think I will be jumping to AMD with these prices. Crazy

  • Howler
    Howler Vor 11 Tage

    I had a budget pulled up for a pc upgrade once 40 series launched, due to psu shortage in my preferred online retailer i allready bought and installed a seasonic px1600 psu, it came with 2 12vhpwr gen 5 cables so i'm good to go, i am getting that 4090 the second it becomes available for purchase. Later on will be watercooling that fe card too. Wonder what oc we'll be able to get too.

  • TheSeptu
    TheSeptu Vor 11 Tage

    Waiting for AMD to launch. Will trigger a price war at a minimum. It's entirely possible Nvidia hiked their prices at the last minute to account for the price war, so they had extra room to "reduce" prices when AMD launches.

  • JackVice
    JackVice Vor 11 Tage +4978

    It's going to be a rough wake up call for Nvidia, scalpers and miners no longer interested in graphics cards. These prices are out of reach for most gamers.

    • Shiv Inder Singh
      Shiv Inder Singh Vor 8 Stunden

      Why are miners not interested?

    • Mr V
      Mr V Vor 5 Tage

      @Mark Dierker I really hope so.

    • Mark Dierker
      Mark Dierker Vor 6 Tage

      @Mr V I wont feel sorry for the scalpers who buy these cards, I'm gonna guess they will be regretting that move.

    • Jaxi
      Jaxi Vor 6 Tage

      @CodyMonster 4070 is.. 1200$ build here, and was willing to shovel out 600 for a 4070, not going to spend fucking 1100 on one.. Ridiculous, hope the company implodes.

  • Willem Swanepoel
    Willem Swanepoel Vor 11 Tage +3

    I wanted to buy 3000 series because the price dropped to the range where I am willing to spend on it but that with a $200-300 extra, I can get the 2-4x more performance, sounds like a good idea to hold and wait
    if it was a 20-30% increase, I would have bought a 3080 or even 3090 by now

  • Snake Plissken
    Snake Plissken Vor 11 Tage +2

    8 years ago the max for a graphics card was more or less 400-600 and that was top of the line 980. They just keep going higher and higher and in reality in the current economic crisis, they're really milking it. I don't know if I could justify what they're asking. I felt bad / guilty enough getting a 3090 for 1200. 1200 can go a long way toward more hardware.

    • ghostyboi
      ghostyboi Vor 10 Tage

      I probably couldn’t name one thing that hasn’t drastically gone up in price in the last 8 years bro.. that’s life .

  • nicholas ragas
    nicholas ragas Vor 11 Tage +1

    I will hopefully buy a 4090 or 4090 ti pre built desktop once the prices come down. I will pay 3,000 for a full build so most likely next year and I will sell both of my high end 3000 builds.

  • brian sehovski
    brian sehovski Vor 11 Tage

    I’m gonna ride my 2080 super till the wheels fall off. I was a lucky one to get it at regular retail price a month before the shortage….
    It renders my projects 2:1 (
    Video length:render time) and peak frame rate in games.
    even at under volt by 1-2% will extend the lifespan of the card.
    Heck, I still get great results from my 1070 on my backup card.
    One thing people don’t admit to is that beyond 8k res. The majority of people don’t have the eye sight to see the difference. It’s a neurological fact that the brain fills in the gaps the eyes don’t see. I think nvidia is either playing the shortage market scenario or they realize graphics technology is approaching the physical capabilities of humans.
    I’m glad processors caught up to the software rendering speed for the types of projects at least as a prosumer.
    So, I have options to maintain my current workflow delivery times without breaking the bank.
    Just admit to yourself your expectations and needs then invest intelligently.

  • Kokoro Wish
    Kokoro Wish Vor 11 Tage +241

    I'll be waiting to see what AMD are offering, because Nvidia priced me out a loooooong time ago.

    • F15Ranger
      F15Ranger Vor 11 Tage

      @RG 4x the performance! I’m on it

    • F15Ranger
      F15Ranger Vor 11 Tage

      @RG what’s funny is people side with EVGA because they don’t get enough margin. Those same people complain the price went up. Bunch of babies

    • The Shape
      The Shape Vor 11 Tage

      @BlackPoison357 speak for yourself...my 2nd brand new 6700XT (RMA) does same exact thing. In both my systems. Nvidia works fine. What gives?

    • BlackPoison357
      BlackPoison357 Vor 11 Tage +2

      @The Shape As someone with an AMD 6900XT my card has less drivers issues than 3 of my friends with 20 series. The issue you're referring to no longer exists.

    • RG
      RG Vor 11 Tage

      @F15Ranger go for it man, somebody has to buy them

  • A. Yuuki
    A. Yuuki Vor 11 Tage +1

    I pretty much expected this, but this week really has me wondering about my future with PC gaming hardware. EVGA was my preferred brand and I've never owned anything but Nvidia. But, I'm really not happy with size, power requirements, or price. I hope at least the 4060 has some surprise to it and shows up sooner rather than later.
    (As someone who got into PCs with SFF builds in things like Shuttle cases with 250watt PSUs this all just isn't nearly as impressive to me as things like the GPD Win, Steam Deck, etc. I love desktops but it just seems nuts to me what can be accomplished at around 15 watts and if I want the newest GPU I need to buy a bigger case/brace and get on a payment plan with my electric company :p )

    • A. Yuuki
      A. Yuuki Vor 11 Tage +1

      @Packed It actually reminded me of this apartment I used to stay at that had all the utilities included. Being able to blast the heat/air-conditioning with no concern was nice, but nowadays I could do maxed out 4090 gaming or even mine bitcoin if I wanted ;)

    • Packed
      Packed Vor 11 Tage

      Right electricity costs so much to run a PC crazy

  • Diopside
    Diopside Vor 11 Tage

    Performance per dollar here, I bought back in 2k19 GTX 1660 Ti and it perfectly did it's job for a good price, I hope they will release smth like this again without Ray Tracing.

  • Chris Haugh
    Chris Haugh Vor 11 Tage

    I need someone to help explain to me in laymen's terms why GPU's keep getting larger? Literally just about every other type of electronic product in existence gets smaller with each newer version, why are these things becoming so abhorrently massive?

  • adac7786
    adac7786 Vor 11 Tage +2

    i got a 3080 at msrp at launch and the value i got out of that card has been insane. no way im upgrading in the near future unless the efficiency improves.

    • robredz
      robredz Vor 9 Tage

      The 3080 and 3090 are fairly greedy already, many will have to upgrade PSU to go 40XX

  • Tx Mits
    Tx Mits Vor 11 Tage +130

    Went from wanting a 4080 evga to looking forward to November to see 7000 series.

    • D Lloyd
      D Lloyd Vor 11 Tage +1

      @Karim Chleh Watch Gamers Nexus video on it

    • David Bonner
      David Bonner Vor 11 Tage +1

      @Miguel Chang ... "At this time." I think one or more of 3 things may be happening:
      1) Now is NOT a time I'd want to be making new GPUs. Remember, Etherium made GPU mining obsolete last Friday (the same day of the EVGA announcement... coincidence?)
      2) There is a period of time that there is a non-competition agreement. EVGA did say they would retain workforce that wanted to stay...
      3) There are already talks that are under NDA. Imagine RDNA3 on Nov. 3 being announced showing a bright new EVGA card.
      Don't forget... EVGA could partner with both AMD and Intel and still not use the capacity they outright own right now.

    • Get-In-2-Get-Out
      Get-In-2-Get-Out Vor 11 Tage +1

      Smart call.

    • temp
      temp Vor 11 Tage +3

      nah. look forward to AMD.

    • n2Fast _
      n2Fast _ Vor 11 Tage +2

      @Karim Chleh one of Jay’s most recent videos covers it

  • The Evil
    The Evil Vor 11 Tage

    Bought my RX6900XT for €999 from AMD Europe during Covid.
    I thought back then that I must be crazy to spend so much money on a GPU. But at least I got the graphics card for MSRP.
    But if the prices for PC gaming stay at such a high level, I'll just buy an XBox or a PS at some point.

  • Andrew Laidlaw
    Andrew Laidlaw Vor 9 Tage

    As much as I'd like to get the latest card, I'll be one of those unlucky few that'll have to try n save up and hope to get one assuming that all the scalpers etc don't end up buying up the stock first.

  • Chillin
    Chillin Vor 11 Tage

    I hope eventually they work on making them cheaper then making them faster. It wont ever happen, but I hope.

  • l3v1ckUK
    l3v1ckUK Vor 11 Tage

    Although I wasn't expecting them to mention mobile parts, I'm still disappointed that they didn't.

  • Dave K.
    Dave K. Vor 11 Tage +66

    I really can't say that I'm excited for this series, or even interested in it beyond hoping that the green mafia takes swift kick in the attitude that takes them down a few notches. It's a real shame when consumers enable nvidia to act the way they have been in the past, and continues to do.

    • Bound4Earth
      Bound4Earth Vor 11 Tage

      I was looking forward to it because the 3k series was so good and brought some great changes.
      The 3080 ($700 MSRP) was barely a 30% increase over the 2080ti ($1200 MSRP) for a much lower launch price. This time they ramped the power usage and heat way up. Either they are delivering massive performance gains never before seen in GPU history or this series is going to be passed over. It kind of reminds me of the Fermi/Pentium cannot compete edition (I mean 4) series. AMD is competing too well just turn on the space heater mode goodbye comfortable room temps/overclocking headroom/etc because numbers. They have to buy Pentium 4/Fermi and 4k series nVidia? We will find out shortly I guess.
      If the 4080 doesn't hit at least ~60 percent of the 3080ti, then this is beyond miserable failure for me.
      I hope AMD delivers a card that can just do 1440p at 200 fps max settings without this kind of overclock and power abuse and I would be fine saying goodbye. So tired of nVidia and Intels failing to deliver for a generation or many and so they over boost space heater mode to make up the difference. No one asked for higher power draw cards or more heat.

    • Gomola Speed
      Gomola Speed Vor 11 Tage +5

      Vote with your wallets.

  • Mihai
    Mihai Vor 11 Tage

    Lots of people gonna rediscover their love for solitaire thanks to nvidia
    i think a lot of people upgrading to 40xx series will need to add the cost of a Psu to the card cost.

  • Jeremy
    Jeremy Vor 10 Tage

    ging to hang onto my 3080 until i see what amd ends up doing. honestly nothing wrong with it and i was able to make a 970 go for a shit ton of years and game hours. so upgrading seems kind of silly until the next gen after 4000 series and what not

  • egor130
    egor130 Vor 10 Tage +1

    I got my Msi 2070 S for $399 on a stupid nice Black Friday sale right before corona hit. I think I made the right choose looking at how its been going these past 2 years.

  • InYuco Katan
    InYuco Katan Vor 11 Tage +1

    I have always been an nvidia fan for my GPU and AMD for my cpu. Specifically evga for gpu. Dating back to 2006 when I built my first rig. This is the first time I have ever felt this way, but I will wait for the next AMD gpu and take a performance hit before I give nvidia anymore money. That company has lost its freaking mind. Between the ridiculous overclocking lockdowns and now their blatant peracetic business practices with AIBs I can no longer support them as a company.