The Problem with "Free" College | Joe Rogan & Andrew Yang

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  • Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1245 w/Andrew Yang:
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  • rasheed sobo
    rasheed sobo Vor Stunde

    so this guy is saying that colleges are so expensive because faculty needs to get paid

  • Hallie Samuel
    Hallie Samuel Vor Stunde

    To me it’s more about irresponsibility, people now don’t make good decisions when it comes to college. They go to $50,000 a year schools to party and then come out art majors and I don’t really feel bad about that. The only reason half of students go to college now is because their parents forced them to but they don’t care because they want to party. People need to start going to college where they can afford it .

  • /Altezza
    /Altezza Vor 3 Stunden

    The problem with the Title on this video..

  • Call Me Melvin
    Call Me Melvin Vor 4 Stunden +1

    I knew college wasnt for me so I looked into different trades and became a welder 🤑 love it!!

  • Andrew King
    Andrew King Vor 5 Stunden

    Land of The Free,Ha fucking Ha.

  • Peter Boon
    Peter Boon Vor 6 Stunden

    From what I understand it is only FEDERAL STUDENT LOANS that you can not get out of because it is taxpayer money.
    Someone correct me if I am wrong.

  • SunLit Turtle
    SunLit Turtle Vor 7 Stunden

    Being a share holder and reaping the benefits of dividends makes sense. Most dividends only pay .40 cents to 1.90 per share 4 times a year. What is the dividend worth on being an american citizen. Priceless I suppose, Its more valuable than AAPL, MCD, KO, or AMZN ( I know...AMZN is not a dividend stock). Is it worth 1000$ 12 times a year? Maybe, what country with this sort of income can we compare it to? How much is their citizen "dividend"?

  • worcestershire1
    worcestershire1 Vor 12 Stunden +3

    Why not just cut everyone's taxes? It's way simpler :)

  • SemisolidPavlo
    SemisolidPavlo Vor 14 Stunden

    Get a job while going to school. Reduce the bloated cost of education.

    • REALITY TALK REVIEWS
      REALITY TALK REVIEWS Vor 7 Stunden

      +TheChosenOne Thats what part time jobs are for.

    • TheChosenOne
      TheChosenOne Vor 13 Stunden

      How the hell am I suppose to balance studying Engineering whilst at the same time working? Even If I somehow do manage to choosing to work could be the difference between getting a First class or not.

  • steve c
    steve c Vor 14 Stunden +2

    It’s not the governments job to give us money.

  • NPAMike
    NPAMike Vor 16 Stunden

    If you have college debt and still trying to keep up with Joneses then its your own fault. If you can't suffer for a few years and living minimally to try to pay off your debt and live debt free.

  • Sepín
    Sepín Vor 17 Stunden

    Make elementary student funds
    Make college free
    So da stupit ass kids like me
    Dont take education for granted

  • Carl Popkes
    Carl Popkes Vor 20 Stunden

    College tuition is high because the Government subsidizes student a loans. Colleges know the government will pay so they raise tuition to milk the government as much as they can by charging higher and higher tuition. Same thing happens in healthcare paid for by the government.

  • Sion Roberts
    Sion Roberts Vor 20 Stunden +1

    Well how about that, an Asian that sucks at math

  • Drogon 298
    Drogon 298 Vor 21 Stunde

    I love how college kids hold their heads up so high and look down on others, when in fact they're the poor shmucks that were fooled into be sitting in a pile of debt. Meanwhile, I'm sitting right next to them in the same office, debt free making the same salary as they are lol.

  • Eric Borja
    Eric Borja Vor 21 Stunde

    I don't think Yang realizes that community colleges, which would be free, have vocational programs.

  • Blake Betsworth
    Blake Betsworth Vor 22 Stunden

    I was always expected to go to college by my parents, really wish more people would have been talking like this back in the early 2000's. I found a job after college fairly quickly but the job market is flooded with people like me, and employers know we're in debt so they tend to exploit those factors. Not exactly a great reward for achieving higher education.

  • ok 01
    ok 01 Vor 23 Stunden

    Americans allow corruption because most don't vote !

    • REALITY TALK REVIEWS
      REALITY TALK REVIEWS Vor 6 Stunden

      +ok 01 You mean like they do in leftist run schools across the country?

    • ok 01
      ok 01 Vor 6 Stunden

      +REALITY TALK REVIEWS Only 30% of Americans voted in the last election. Btw, there are candidates who's primarily focus is ending lobbying and corporate greed, it's just that republicans label them as " socialist" & that's a bad word in the U.S. It's great propaganda on the republican side. In a country that's 28th in education ( with republican states amongst the most uneducated and obese) and where only 36% of its people own a passport, it's easy to brainwash and instill fear on the ignorant.

    • REALITY TALK REVIEWS
      REALITY TALK REVIEWS Vor 7 Stunden

      Last time i checked....we didnt take our country back by voting. #1776

  • Ragna8859
    Ragna8859 Vor Tag

    If this Guy want to have a chance,he has to stay as Far as possible From the socialist mob.like saying",Im the candidate that is not shit like the rest"

  • PlainJane
    PlainJane Vor Tag

    Yang-king America's wang. He is a lying rich pc of shit that has bought into the Conservative Fascist dumb down requirement for all Americans. Rich twats can't control you if you're not stupid, they want to make damn sure you're staying stupid America!

  • Hendrik S.
    Hendrik S. Vor Tag

    Every branch of education should be supported and subsidized. But making trades and apprenticeships more attractive should definitly be a goal. A lot of kids don't really belong into college.

  • The Critter
    The Critter Vor Tag

    I dont agree with Yang on most issues (he's anti-gun as fuck, and I don't care for the UBI as it's just another excuse to steal more money that the government didn't earn) but at least he's not an idiot when it comes to college

    • REALITY TALK REVIEWS
      REALITY TALK REVIEWS Vor 7 Stunden

      +Zen Mate He said he wants to put 1,000 dollars in teenagers hands. Idk about you...but when i was a teen...college was the last thing on my mind. Yang Gang are nothing but Bern Victims that dont want an 80 year old white guy who sold out to Killary, in the white house.

    • The Critter
      The Critter Vor 18 Stunden

      +Zen Mate also funny you mention me wanting money to be taken. If I wanted that I would be voluntarily giving it away to a charity or some other cause.

    • The Critter
      The Critter Vor 20 Stunden

      +Zen Mate you know how to "combat automation"? Don't settle in a field that can be automated.

    • The Critter
      The Critter Vor 20 Stunden

      +Zen Mate oh no I get the point. I just dont agree with it.

    • Zen Mate
      Zen Mate Vor 21 Stunde

      I think you're missing the point. He wants UBI not because he's a socialist but because there is no other way to combat automation in the future. So you will want your "earned" money to be paying for others because otherwise you'll both be fucked. and God forbid something happens to you and you can't work, how will you support your family? You know that whole thing about living is a community.

  • aadmike27 OH NOES!
    aadmike27 OH NOES! Vor Tag +1

    This is the same retard that wants to give away 250 BILLION every single month.

  • Aaron Wallace
    Aaron Wallace Vor Tag

    while I free with yang mostly on automation. the thing that he is missing is...
    automation will effect hvac/plumbing/mechanics because the designs of these machines are getting much more efficient. therefore there will be less demand for repair, cause the robots that made the machines worked better than the people that used to make the machines

    • Zen Mate
      Zen Mate Vor 20 Stunden

      What? I can't see how the deign of a drain pipe can stop it from getting blocked when I have a big dump!!

  • Jackal 1
    Jackal 1 Vor Tag

    Give 1k a month to people who don't work. Who needs a job when poppa yang can just give me someone else's paycheck

    • Zen Mate
      Zen Mate Vor 20 Stunden

      OK if you choose not to work because the government paid you $1000 a month then go ahead a sit on your ass. I won't. I will still have a lot more than $1000 and can donate that extra to charity.

  • 汉唐Heavensent

    Colleges should be paying students to attend. If Colleges don’t know how to make money then how can they teach you how to make money? Colleges should open restaurants to medical facilities while teaching at the same time.

  • cam llaudert
    cam llaudert Vor Tag

    The privilege in this podcast is palpable.

  • c_ tatsu
    c_ tatsu Vor Tag

    Once we understand this person the better all our lives will be

  • c_ tatsu
    c_ tatsu Vor Tag

    average person lol

  • Philip Erdman
    Philip Erdman Vor Tag

    Anyone considering going to college, this is for you: DO NOT TAKE STUDENT LOANS. When you go to college they will make you feel soooooo good and brainwash you for 4 years. After you graduate, you will be stuck with crippling debt for pretty much the rest of your life, and you will never get an actual “good” job UNLESS - you are rich, spoiled, well connected, sexy, or you cheat. Everyone else - you will be in a rat race that you cannot win.

  • Phillip Sardinha

    People always complain whos gonna pay for it!?
    My thing is why should it cost that? So much knowledge is free and readily available, the Kham Academy, Udemy, youtube, google research, etc. Etc.
    We could have the state create and sponsor at the state level free accredited and accepted college.
    Like let the Harvards and NYUs of the world continue charging 60k a year. But have an acceptable level of a college degree exist and exist FOR FREE!

  • Heidi Gill
    Heidi Gill Vor Tag

    “Give” every 18 year old a thousand dollars a month. Because they’re all so prudent to use towards something productive.........

  • Erik Medina
    Erik Medina Vor Tag

    You got my vote Andrew

  • TurboManTom
    TurboManTom Vor Tag

    Why is the answer always some social program, why can't the answer be, if you voluntarily take a loan you pay it back like a responsible adult?

  • H7 pubgm
    H7 pubgm Vor Tag

    This guy’s stance on gun control is horrific.

  • John Dough
    John Dough Vor Tag

    I went to school with a guy who became a welder. I snickered at that until I heard he was making over $100k a year as an underwater welder... and this was back in the late 80s.

  • John Dough
    John Dough Vor Tag

    Tuition is so high BECAUSE of student debt. It’s because the government started guaranteeing student loans. This led to more people going to college. Limited supply + increased demand = higher prices.

  • Haylen Rendeluk
    Haylen Rendeluk Vor Tag

    I think I’m just gonna join the military I hear they are always hiring

  • Thomas Shaye
    Thomas Shaye Vor Tag

    I am 20 years old and have dropped out. Sometimes I feel lost and worried for my future as I’m sure most people my age feel. I have this desire and pressure to go back to college but for what? Something I’m mildly interested in and that isn’t guaranteed? So I just feel as if it’s something that’s chasing me and that is constantly in my face. College this and college that. I’m thankful for this clip because it is reassuring to know that college at the moment just financially isn’t worth it and that there are other ways to be successful. I definitely think other ways of making a living should be talked about in detail and marketed to the public. Because I really have not been introduced to very many things such as that.

  • alpha sow
    alpha sow Vor Tag

    Free college is only for those who want to attend college

  • minihands _
    minihands _ Vor Tag

    Yang Gang 2020

  • Curtis Bressler
    Curtis Bressler Vor Tag

    Systemic Solution:
    Make all public officials live under the lowest standards of living created and maintained by the system.
    They'll see how bad life can be and will work tirelessly to change THEIR SITUATION immediately.
    Until then, they'll sit in their ivory towers giggling about how good life is.

  • Samuel Anderson
    Samuel Anderson Vor Tag

    Joe “I know a guy” Rogan

  • Girl Friend
    Girl Friend Vor Tag

    I’m now a certified welder. I went to trade school for free and actually knocked out most of my prerequisites for Psychology. So now I have two associates. Both are passions of mine. I’m debt free and working at a psych hospital that not only gives me the experience I need for psych to get a masters and doctorate but also pays for the rest of my undergrad. I don’t know how I’ve managed to tweak the system for my own needs.

  • Get On
    Get On Vor Tag

    This guy will appeal to a lot of people, unlike other candidates who primarily appeal to the left-wingers on the coasts. Very refreshing

  • Jeremy Bland
    Jeremy Bland Vor Tag +2

    Can we switch the war on drugs to the war on education?

  • Mistress M
    Mistress M Vor Tag

    He sounds like a bastion of good sense and then bam! white ppl are gonna start shooting up Asian churches.

  • Buttered Toast
    Buttered Toast Vor Tag

    What is this, another Democrat running on promises of "free" stuff? Maybe ya'll should think about an episode where you interview yourself, and call it "The problem with JRE fans"

  • Its ASetUp
    Its ASetUp Vor Tag

    Nothing is free. Someone else will just be paying for that liberal arts degree in gender studies that has no hiring prospects.

  • Chad, Don
    Chad, Don Vor Tag

    Yang is a very smart and informed guy and he's not wrong about anything he's saying here.
    My one critique is his comments on the idea of free college. It's not that it would solve the problems, it's ONE piece of the puzzle to fix the issues.
    We need to extend public education to bachelor degree and lower the costs caused by the bloated college admins and more vocational training and better job creation.
    The criticism should be that it's just one piece. Not that it's wrong-think.

  • Heals the feels -ESO

    I am going to spend my $1000 on hookers and cocaine.

  • Jonathan Kim
    Jonathan Kim Vor Tag +2

    This guy is all solution based.

  • Jackson Costello

    Bernie’s a numb skull. Trying to make a country rich from socialism is like trying to lift yourself up with a bucket handle while standing in it.

  • lrock48
    lrock48 Vor 2 Tage

    Schools lined up their curriculum with "required" courses to make money. I don't see why I need to be taking entry level physics/biology while pursuing an accounting degree....
    Also, bookkeeping will never be automated, otherwise business owners and shady employees will not be able to skim off the company (automated = digital footprint/trail). You have no idea how many "creative" bookkeeping methods I've seen while doing audits.

  • GamesterStatus
    GamesterStatus Vor 2 Tage

    K thru 12 is free so you can see the irony and greed of paid college. Everyone in America should have the opportunity for college. I am a born and raised republican and I will be voting for Bernie for my Sons future!

  • ricky l
    ricky l Vor 2 Tage

    College is so expensive it’s not even worth it for some fields. Ex: structural and architectural engineering requires extensive school degrees and continuous education to maintain a license. The average sallery for structural engineering is maybe 120K a year if your with a good company for awhile. I make almost that much contracting and I have no school debt.

  • doramason
    doramason Vor 2 Tage

    you can't forgive/default debt. that's against fed's money printing mania. you'll get murdered for trying that as a president...

  • Simon no last name
    Simon no last name Vor 2 Tage

    yang is a freaking scam artist! speaking in half truths and cherry picked facts 🙄 vote for him if you're an uniformed idiot. good ol Joe "but have you tried dmt?" Rogan seems to never know anything about who he's talking to.
    so over Rogan... go back to fighting for money dude you're an embarrassment

    • SkyrimBelongsToTheNords
      SkyrimBelongsToTheNords Vor Tag

      Still better than the rest of the dems who want stupid shit like Slavery reparations.

  • Emerson Mcaree
    Emerson Mcaree Vor 2 Tage

    He's pretty great until he says white people are gonna start killing Asians...

  • Earl Soldier
    Earl Soldier Vor 2 Tage

    MAGA forever.

  • Unknown God
    Unknown God Vor 2 Tage

    There’s also so many administrators who don’t even help at all unfortunately

    • Unknown God
      Unknown God Vor Tag

      I myself stopped going to UCB because I didn’t want to be 30-40 thousand dollars in debt for only the first two years. So I decided to go to a community college for the first two years. I pay out of pocket but I’d rather come up with a few thousand for 2 years now than 40k when I’m done with school plus whatever else comes up

    • Unknown God
      Unknown God Vor 2 Tage

      Also for many many low middle to low class the only way to get out of poverty is to go to college. We can’t take chances because we don’t have anything to utilize. Unfortunately the only way out is to get into debt and hope our profession stays “alive”

  • Adam A.
    Adam A. Vor 2 Tage

    Now a days you can google "highest paying jobs with lowest unemployment." You ever met an unemployed respiratory technician, no, that's because they have an unemployment rate of less than one percent, it's actually 0.3% if you wanna be anal about it. These guys make 60k plus a year right outta school with just an associates degree.
    You know you can use ur mobile computer (smart phone) for more than ig and porn right? You guys walk around with MILLIONS of times more computing power in ur pocket than NASA had to put niggas on the moon, and yet don't know how to use google, smfh.

  • King Bowser
    King Bowser Vor 2 Tage

    I supported trump but this guy sounds like a refreshing Democrat 😲

  • damian wasieczko
    damian wasieczko Vor 2 Tage +6

    Gotta be honest, I saw Yang' s opinions of guns and immediately thought I knew the type of Democrat he would be. But I'll hold my hands up and say that I was wrong in underestimating his character. Definitely not one of those greater than thou high horse democrats. He articulates very well.

    • SkyrimBelongsToTheNords
      SkyrimBelongsToTheNords Vor Tag

      He's running as a Democrat, he's gotta have that position on Guns in the primary. He said himself on twitter that Gun Confiscation isn't practical or desirable. He's all about using technology to solve problems.

  • Michael Oporto
    Michael Oporto Vor 2 Tage

    This guy is a god damn moron

  • JustKeith
    JustKeith Vor 2 Tage

    No one extra would graduate. The people what want to go, go now. Some flunk out. Some don't want to go at all. Hardly anyone don't go because of money.

  • NintendoMusic
    NintendoMusic Vor 2 Tage

    He has my vote.

  • Andrew Devine
    Andrew Devine Vor 2 Tage

    Can college even by regarded as a net good anymore? Would you want the dingbats at Evergreen dining out on your tax dollars?

  • Cia
    Cia Vor 2 Tage

    YANG GANG YANG GANG YANG GANG

  • NWOslave
    NWOslave Vor 2 Tage +1

    college is expensive is because of the guaranteed loans by the government with no controls. its the housing bubble all over again. and kids are taking these enormous loans out have no financial judgement if the education will actually help them in their job fields to pay these debts off.

  • IamThatIam
    IamThatIam Vor 2 Tage

    one of the other problems is how colleges have found ways to manipulate funds...im not saying the name of any school but there are lots of them that use this money to put inn a fund and if they dont reach their goal they will put out towards other efforts like sports. The school board can't legally build stuff without certain requirements, but if they move it to a fund like the booster board, the boosters can then build what the school wants without the regulations.

  • FrogFraction
    FrogFraction Vor 2 Tage

    The problem with "Free" College is that it's still a waste of time.

  • TheWutangclan1995
    TheWutangclan1995 Vor 2 Tage

    The only person who's not shouting out "Make College free" for the hell of it and brought some valid points about the downsides of making it free for everyone.

  • Bob Lam
    Bob Lam Vor 2 Tage

    Asian Obama that's running on UBI.

  • Ramon Luis
    Ramon Luis Vor 2 Tage

    Came to dislike, but ended up liking.

  • c a t
    c a t Vor 2 Tage

    OH MY GOD NOT MORE CLEVER PEOPLE WE CANT HAVE THAT

  • Illuminati Dewritos
    Illuminati Dewritos Vor 2 Tage

    In the attempts of appealing to the middle and lower classes he slips in giving everyone 1000 bucks, that’s a freaky idea, cuz you’re not gonna be able to give all “young people” that much money continuously, free money is never free, it will either fuck with the economy or raise taxes, you can pull that much money outta no where

  • RAFatturi
    RAFatturi Vor 2 Tage

    I used to work on powerlines. That's a trade job. It sucked, the pay wasn't that great and it was dangerous. If you want to be busting ass in the heat and the cold all year long and on call, then go to trade school. Many of the "trades" jobs have many of not all of these aspects.

  • Karla Gonzalez
    Karla Gonzalez Vor 2 Tage

    I don’t know why debt is such a big problem. I pay about 2-3k a semester( attend fully I enjoy). I work full time in a factory and I can afford it; no need for loans so early on. I have one more semester left to complete my bachelors.

  • M H
    M H Vor 2 Tage

    Free daycare would help a lot too! Just add free daycare programs to schools.

  • M H
    M H Vor 2 Tage

    Free college doesn't not mean only free 4 year degree college. Most schools have vocational, technical education courses.

  • KeeperOfTheFate
    KeeperOfTheFate Vor 2 Tage

    Poland have free universities. Now many of american startups are outsourcing their work to polish software houses.

  • BLINKS
    BLINKS Vor 2 Tage

    #yanggang

  • Jay Hoonigan
    Jay Hoonigan Vor 2 Tage

    This guy Andrew is a smart guy. Ive heard him talk before. Makes a lot more sense than most dem candidates.

  • Matthew Beechey
    Matthew Beechey Vor 2 Tage

    Didn't know much about Andrew but he seems ight

  • EmDee
    EmDee Vor 2 Tage

    My question is: who is going to pay for the loan forgiveness under his direction? Someone always ends up paying for it. The reason college tuition have gone up is because college has been over prescribed.

  • Senpai
    Senpai Vor 2 Tage

    Guess I'm lucky to be 30k in debt for studying IT.

  • Nick Ciufi
    Nick Ciufi Vor 2 Tage

    He's half-right.
    People need a path out of student loan debts, but they also need to get jobs that allow them to earn more money and produce to society.
    The real problem here is that student loan money is readily available for anyone, regardless of major and regardless of the career potential of the degree.
    The Department of Labor has estimates of what jobs will be needed in 10 years, and those estimates are usually very spot-on. We need to tie loans to majors, and only allow a certain number of them per year on a first-come, first-serve basis. That way we get out of the glut of Business and Psychology majors, and start moving people into the other vocations.
    Once those are tied, we can give people a path out by offering them another way to earn money besides getting a 4-year degree that everyone else has, and then slinging coffee because you can't get a job.

  • Kylwyn
    Kylwyn Vor 3 Tage

    I live in Finland where university is free, but while university is free, they also have vocational high school and regular high school which you choose at 16. Regular sets you on the path to university but vocational is just as acceptable and has more practical courses while leading to trades and such. Since I moved here I’ve thought that was a very clever setup.

  • samai
    samai Vor 3 Tage

    I used to work for a student loan company for several years. It’s a shame how these people set kids up for failure with loans

  • Caleb Wheeler
    Caleb Wheeler Vor 3 Tage

    I think he’s trying to find a lot of round about solutions to the pricing problem, when the easy solution is to just let the market solve it. The reason colleges become so bloated and expensive is because the money is endless. The money is endless because of federally guaranteed loans to kids that don’t know any better. It’s absurd and preventing market forces from operating. Remove federal loans and you will see these schools prices plummet dramatically. I’m not opposed to some sort of universal grant system that students can apply towards their university expense, but a blanket free college plan would only result in the same bloated system we have now. The key is making sure market forces take hold and students are forced to consider cost when they make their choices. When schools have to compete on price, their prices will fall. This is true for every single other part of the economy, it will be true in education.

  • Abel Brokenman
    Abel Brokenman Vor 3 Tage

    People, who have degrees and got successful have a tunnel vision of the path to success. It works because it worked for me.
    Stop thinking of it as free college. Think free Continuing Education.
    College, Trades, Vocational or an apprenticeship to a master craftsman ( boatbuilder ,painter, sculptor, furniture maker, whatever) UBI would certainly make it easier to concentrate on learning.
    Also make civics a bigger part of that curriculum. I believe the closer you are in age to participation in society the easier it is to hold your attention in a civics class. In my era it was taught in 8th or 9th grade. A time when it hard to think of yourself affecting the society you are not really participating member.
    An informed electorate is the only defense for a free society.Let us take the time to teach an understanding of our constitution, the role of each branch of government and how to participate in a exchange of ideas using critical thinking. Not the superficial way it is taught ( if at all) today.

  • Jimbo Slim
    Jimbo Slim Vor 3 Tage

    Free 1000$!

  • Robert Hansen
    Robert Hansen Vor 3 Tage

    Hmmm... loan forgiveness for those with private loans is ridiculous. Thats pretty much defualting on a loan. College loan bubble crisis - that would be the result. Mark my words if we go down that path.

  • Samwise2
    Samwise2 Vor 3 Tage

    I don't even understand. How do people still think jobs will be available despite CONSTANT automation. Everyones' job will be gone in 20 years, tops. We should be worried about what people are going to be doing with their time when there is no social burden to work.

  • Carl Knott
    Carl Knott Vor 3 Tage

    A politician, or wanna be politician, who talks sense and not bs or talking point? That is very rare.

  • AhB
    AhB Vor 3 Tage

    Is this some sort of American joke I'm too educated to understand?

  • Gage
    Gage Vor 3 Tage

    Yang is a dumbass don't vote for him

  • Dean Cutler
    Dean Cutler Vor 3 Tage

    When it comes to student debts persisting through bankruptcy, that had to happen because education isn't really like a material asset that can be seized if you default on payments. Take loans, get educated, don't pay and declare bankruptcy and your credit is clean in 7 years.

  • Fizzics
    Fizzics Vor 3 Tage +1

    I have a feeling he is too perfect of a candidate to win and is at a disadvantage bc of his beliefs that are centrist compared to the extreme(r) ideas today

    • Jonathan Cogdell
      Jonathan Cogdell Vor 2 Tage

      This. He isn't extreme enough for the Demo party and that will be a huge hurdle for him to climb over. Which sucks big dick because this is the kind of person America needs, not someone who is extreme on either end.